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  • Cannon T2i = HDV 1080i + Vegas ?

    Posted by Brad Leigh on October 8, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Hello!
    I currently own a HDR-FX-1 (1080i HDV), and Vegas Pro 10 running on a i7 2600 3.4 GHZ w 8 Gig ram. For some up coming projects I am considering Purchasing a Cannon T2i (1080 30p AVCHD). I really want a smooth efficient editing experience in Vegas. Is there anything I should know? Is Vegas happy with the T2i version of AVCHD? Is there any issues mixing 1080P and 1080i in the same timeline? Does 1080 30p bog things down more then 1080i AVCHD,or is it about the same, and last if this is a/b roll with about 50/50 both cameras, what project setting would you recommend? 1080i or 1080p? ( assuming it will be streamed on the internet first release and SD DVD and possible later full HD Blue Ray)
    Thanks !
    Brad

    i7 2600 3.4 Ghz 8Gig Ram , Win 7 Pro, Vegas Pro 10

    John Rofrano replied 14 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Scott Francis

    October 8, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    I would question a DSLR at this point unless you are shooting only short clips. They are limited to how long they can record and have had sensor overheating issues too. I looked into them about 5 months ago and went with a Canon HF G10 and love it! With that in mind, Vegas still is not the best with any AVCHD, and slows down a bit as well as crashes. You can deal with this by getting Cineform and converting to a better editing format. Good luck with what ever you do!
    Regards

    Scott Francis
    Mind’s Eye Audio/Video Productions

  • Thomas Roberts

    October 8, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    I do about 90% of my work with HDSLR’s. I’ve recently shot over a dozen multi-cam shoots with 5d’s and T2I’s. Sony Vegas Pro edits them nicely.

    1. 12min clips are an issue- I shoot mostly corporate and commercial. If I need longer times, I rent other HD cams. (Ex1, HVx200,Af100)
    2. Double system sound- You need a good solution. (h4n zoom, good mics etc)
    3. Vegas handles multiple codecs nicely.
    4. Have the beefiest machine you can afford to edit with for DSLR’s. I use MPEG Streamclip and the Dnx workflow from Avid

    T

  • John Rofrano

    October 9, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    [Scott Francis] “I would question a DSLR at this point unless you are shooting only short clips.”

    I agree. I would not recommend a DSLR if you are an event shooter. Get a “real” camcorder instead. (the right tool for the right job)

    [Scott Francis] “With that in mind, Vegas still is not the best with any AVCHD, and slows down a bit as well as crashes.”

    It’s probably worth pointing out that the Canon T2i does NOT shoot AVCHD. It shoots Canon’s own version of AVC/H.264. AVCHD is an industry standard (as opposed to just AVC video shot in HD) and Vegas should have no problems with AVCHD that conforms to the spec other than you need a fairly beefy computer to work with it.

    If you plan on getting the T2i should should probably also plan on buying CineForm NeoScene to make editing a lot smoother although Vegas Pro 10 is a lot better as editing DSLR files than previous versions.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Brad Leigh

    October 10, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    John and Thomas
    Both you guys mentioned software for converting AVCHD files to edit.
    Is this just because of complications with the T2i format, or do you use it in general with AVCHD. I’m running an i72600 3.4 g with 8 gig ram. I was hoping to avoid that step. Still have bought my second camera and I’m considering Cannon HV-40 HDV to avoid the whole issue, and to try to assure smoothest editing experience.
    Thank you again for taking the time to respond.
    Brad

    i7 2600 3.4 Ghz 8Gig Ram , Win 7 Pro, Vegas Pro 10

  • Thomas Roberts

    October 10, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    These two articles will explain the workflow

    https://www.learningdslrvideo.com/pre-rendering-canon-t2i-files/

    https://vimeo.com/forums/topic:23548

    ***Currently I do NOT export the Canon DSLR files. I edit them natively in Sony Vegas Pro 10.

    T

  • John Rofrano

    October 10, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    [Brad Leigh] “Is this just because of complications with the T2i format, or do you use it in general with AVCHD.”

    It is just the T2i format which is not AVCHD. There is no problem with AVCHD files. I would try editing the T2i files natively first and see what kind of performance you get. Vegas Pro 10 has specifically added support for DSLR files so you may be fine. If not, CineForm is the way to go.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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