Can we talk about the Retina MBP for just one second?

[Lemur Hayop]

With FCPX, which seems to have fairly low system requirements, maybe three years. I think other NLEs, motion graphics, and especially games won’t cut it that long.

[Jeremy Garchow]

2 years?

[Jeremy Garchow]

Holy shit.

A commercial for the retina just played.

Guess what app was featured? Twice?

[Chris Harlan]

[Shane Ross] “Yeah, that is the ONE adapter I’ll have to get. But I had to have an Express34 to eSATA card, so that doesn’t scare me either.
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FWIW, the LaCie eSATA TBolt adapter is working well for me.

[Walter Soyka]

[Jeremy Garchow] “I have been wrong publicly here on this forum, and I apologize for being a doofus.”

It’s really funny you should say that — I felt that you were right and I was wrong, and that I owed you an apology for my doofus insistence that Apple still gave a damn about performance.

These announcements were just bizarre. Even the people who were right feel like they were wrong. Further, there were people who disagreed with each other (like Tim and Shane), but who were both right. Crazy.

Back to the new MBP.

I’m probably not known here for warm and fuzzy feelings toward Apple, but I think there’s a lot to like in this laptop. That looks to be a lot of power for the size, and who doesn’t like more pixels?

I’d think about replacing my current 2010 17″ MBP with one, but I absolutely need to see it first. I hate the glare on glossy displays (I do have a couple glossy laptops, but I’ve always kept my main laptop with a matte display).

Also, the retina display could cut both ways. On the one hand, I’m excited about all that resolution; on the other hand, I’m worried that pixel-doubling (or is it quadrupling?) will drive me batty until retina support is common. A 1440×900 display is not enough, and a 2880×1800 is too much unless the app is built for it.

Going from three USB ports down to two bums me out. Three was sometimes too few, so two will have me carrying a hub or maybe some kind of Thunderbolt device.

[Jeremy Garchow] “The bad: The Ram is not replaceable, hell, the whole thing is not replaceable. This isn’t good for a mobile beast. “

Is this really so bad? The only time I’ve ever replaced the RAM in a laptop was when I didn’t max it out at purchase. Otherwise, I keep them pretty much the same as when I purchased them.

I field-stripped a G3 Pismo once (only took about 5 hours), but even pre-next generation designs are nowhere near as modular as old, slow, clunky, huge laptops were, so what’s really user serviceable anymore?

[Jeremy Garchow] “I need a truly mobile workstation until about the fall. The Retina MBP might just fit that ticket, but it makes me a little uneasy at how inaccessible it is, and unproven, but it sure seems to be a powerhouse in a small form factor.”

Does it make a difference that it doesn’t ship for another month?

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[Walter Soyka] “I’d think about replacing my current 2010 17” MBP with one, but I absolutely need to see it first. I hate the glare on glossy displays (I do have a couple glossy laptops, but I’ve always kept my main laptop with a matte display). “

I hear you. I will have to see this in action, too, but supposedly for a glossy display, the press says that it’s pretty damn close to matte. I will also need to see non retinaed(?) apps on the retina.

[Walter Soyka] “Is this really so bad? The only time I’ve ever replaced the RAM in a laptop was when I didn’t max it out at purchase. Otherwise, I keep them pretty much the same as when I purchased them.

I field-stripped a G3 Pismo once (only took about 5 hours), but even pre-next generation designs are nowhere near as modular as old, slow, clunky, huge laptops were, so what’s really user serviceable anymore?”

I have had Ram go bad on the road. It sucks. This computer couldn’t even stand an emergency trip to a local ram shop. It would need to be repaired. So, it’s a wild card. Maybe RAM that’s soldered to the board is better? I don’t know.

[Walter Soyka] “Does it make a difference that it doesn’t ship for another month?”

If it’s a month, it’d be perfect.

The spot. Weird:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFUW7GcHsLQ&sns=em

[Kevin Patrick]

[Shane Ross] “The RAM is not upgradable. Sodered to the Motherboard.”

I’ve read about this, but has that been confirmed? By Apple or a tear down?

I can see the benefit of not having a connector, in terms of reliability issues. But I wonder how many issues they really have with this.

However, that means they have to build two different boards. Not one board and install the required memory. That seems like an expensive sourcing/logistics issue. That does not seem like a good trade off for Apple.

[Kevin Patrick]

You need a bigger gauntlet, or something. Nobody seems up to your challenges.

Don’t give up hope. Sooner or later somebody’s gotta step in.

[Jeremy Garchow]

OK.

Here’s some new things. I will continue being wrong, and loving every minute of it. Just don’t take me to Vegas.

It might just be SSD: https://blog.macsales.com/14040-new-2012-macs-means-new-owc-ssd-designs

And the tear down (it’s actually a rather humorous read for a geek like me): https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Display-Teardown/9462/2

RAM is hard wired.

My dreams of Apple chips died with Samsung.

This thing is as locked down as it possibly can be. I bet we can expect more of this “engineering” from Apple in the next Pro machine they build in the year 2000.

[Frank Gothmann]

[Jeremy Garchow] “This thing is as locked down as it possibly can be. I bet we can expect more of this “engineering” from Apple in the next Pro machine they build in the year 2000.”

Out of curiosity: how do you see/rate all this? Do you think this is all due to technical reasons or motivated by other intentions? Do you rate it good, bad or don’t you care, also with regards how this might start to carry over to other products?

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