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Can we talk about the Retina MBP for just one second?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I’m exhausted about thinking about this stuff. I have less idea of what to do then on June 21st, 2010. Part of me doesn’t care about what Apple’s future may entail, and then I start to think about a facility switch to Windows, and I start to care a little more again.”
Jeremy,
I think part of the equation is what you’re talking about: this is the way Apple does it. If you want to rely on them long term, get used to the new normal. Because next June might be a lot like this June.
The alternative is a transition period and a different set of problems.
I’ve spent the past 2 years slowing weening myself off Apple software to cross platform solutions (for all my computing needs).
Franz.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “The alternative is a transition period and a different set of problems.”
And a lot of money. I’m glad I was smart and got the cross platform SAN amidst all this BS.
[Franz Bieberkopf] “I’ve spent the past 2 years slowing weening myself off Apple software to cross platform solutions (for all my computing needs).”
Is it just you editing, or do you have others to look after and support?
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I was THIS CLOSE [ ] to getting a retina display MacBook Pro. But a couple things stopped me.
– Apps need to be written to take advantage of the display if they are to appear full size, full quality. Any non-retina apps might appear slightly fuzzy, because the pixels are doubled. Something like that. That’s what I heard…
– The RAM is not upgradable. Sodered to the Motherboard. Buy the RAM now, or no upgrade! And if the RAM goes bad…sorry, new motherboard.
– It ships in 2-3 weeks. You can buy it NOW, but not “available” for a few weeks. And it might ship with Mountain Lion…not Lion…because of that. My current apps run on Lion, and in some cases specific versions of Lion…so I need to stick with that, until the update is cleared.
– glossy display only. Sorry, I just cannot do a glossy display. RARELY am I in “ideal conditions” when I use my laptop to edit.
– I’d need a butt-load of adapters. I have Firewire drives, and eSATA drives. And I occasionally connect to the tower via Ethernet to access my CalDigit HDOne drive. IF I wanted to do ANY of that, I’d need 3 adapters. The current, updated MBPs have all those connections.
I was close…on the verge of clicking the PURCHASE button. But then switched to the standard, updated MBP, added the MATTE display…more RAM, and got that. I’ll swap out the drive with an SSD later.
Shane
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Is it just you editing, or do you have others to look after and support?”
Jeremy,
I’m solo – as are the people who rely on me for advice about their systems. So we don’t share all the same problems.
I’m sympathetic to your situation and interested in your problems and the possible solutions.
I’m just amazed that people would consider anything but stop-gap measures involving Apple at this point.
Franz.
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Soldering RAM means you’ll buy a MBP now and again when 16gb is paltry. Furthermore 1gb VRAM today is paltry. How can future Retinas and FCPX not demand more VRAM to progress? Today’s MBP is an expensive short-term investment.
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[Shane Ross] “- Apps need to be written to take advantage of the display if they are to appear full size, full quality. Any non-retina apps might appear slightly fuzzy, because the pixels are doubled. Something like that. That’s what I heard…”
I’m not overly concerned, but I have to check it out. I hear there’s a slider that changes the screen res. Also unlike iApps that were developed for a really small screen, regular OS applications will be a bit different.
[Shane Ross] “- The RAM is not upgradable. Sodered to the Motherboard. Buy the RAM now, or no upgrade! And if the RAM goes bad…sorry, new motherboard.”
Yeah, this is one of my concerns. 16GBs is in my future, but the inaccessiblity is a new one.
[Shane Ross] “- glossy display only. Sorry, I just cannot do a glossy display. RARELY am I in “ideal conditions” when I use my laptop to edit. “I read today that since they redesigned the screen, there’s no front glass like on other machines. They knocked the glare down by 75% or something. I’ll believe it when I see it. I don’t like glossy either.
[Shane Ross] “- I’d need a butt-load of adapters. I have Firewire drives, and eSATA drives. And I occasionally connect to the tower via Ethernet to access my CalDigit HDOne drive. IF I wanted to do ANY of that, I’d need 3 adapters. The current, updated MBPs have all those connections.”
My life is a buttload of adapters. It doesn’t scare me.
How are you planning to esata on your new 15″ without an express card? For me it will be the Sonnet TBokt to express card adapter. I’ll need an Ethernet adapter too for SAN when it’s in the office. Again I’m not scared of adapting, it’s part of my gig.
[Shane Ross] “I was close…on the verge of clicking the PURCHASE button. But then switched to the standard, updated MBP, added the MATTE display…more RAM, and got that. I’ll swap out the drive with an SSD later.”
Did you ever find a real live retina yesterday?
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[Lemur Hayop] “Soldering RAM means you’ll buy a MBP now and again when 16gb is paltry. Furthermore 1gb VRAM today is paltry. How can future Retinas and FCPX not demand more VRAM to progress? Today’s MBP is an expensive short-term investment.
“I hear you.
My current MBP can only accept 8GBs of RAM and has a 512MB VRAM that has zero CUDA status despite the Nvidia tag. The new RMBP has double of both of those plus CUDA.
What kind of VRAM can you get out a 4.5 pound PC laptop? I ask because I don’t know.
How long do you see as short term?
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[Jeremy Garchow] ”
How are you planning to esata on your new 15″ without an express card? For me it will be the Sonnet TBokt to express card adapter.”Yeah, that is the ONE adapter I’ll have to get. But I had to have an Express34 to eSATA card, so that doesn’t scare me either.
[Jeremy Garchow] “Did you ever find a real live retina yesterday?”
Nope. They won’t be in the Apple Stores for a month, at least. Special order only at this point…online store. I guess I shoulda gone with it, but I didn’t want to wait 3 weeks, and I don’t want Mountain Lion on it.
Shane
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “I’m sympathetic to your situation and interested in your problems and the possible solutions.”
Thanks, Franz.
I don’t want to overstate it, but I’d be lying if I told you it wasn’t a big concern. It’s not like I’ll have to sit over anyone’s shoulder, but I will have to figure out problems and learn the quirks.
[Franz Bieberkopf] “I’m just amazed that people would consider anything but stop-gap measures involving Apple at this point.”
Well, this would just be a laptop. Even in 6 months if an all Windows future becomes crystal clear, I’ll still get great use out of it in my personal life, and if need be, can always bootcamp it.
When I said Apple was back in the garage, I meant that in a good way. I do not mind innovation. This laptop represents that to me. At the same time, Apple has it locked up pretty tight. I am not a hacker, or a power junkie. I need what I need to get the job done and it doesn’t need to be the hugest beast of a machine. I’m an fcp7 user, speed is not what I’m used to. 🙂
These modern applications are becoming less and less efficient. I see them as developing for ever increasing system requirements and therefore money, not developing smarter. I’m going to wait as long as I can, I’m sure I won’t miss much in that time unless fcp8 is released on Windows. 🙂
Jeremy
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[Shane Ross] “Nope. They won’t be in the Apple Stores for a month, at least. Special order only at this point…online store. I guess I shoulda gone with it, but I didn’t want to wait 3 weeks, and I don’t want Mountain Lion on it.”
Oh, wow. I thought they’d at least have a floor model. Good to know.
You made a good choice, it will still be a kick ass laptop.
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