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Can someone process this T2i Cinestyle clip in Premiere to match this photo?
I’m trying to hammer down some good settings for processing Cinestyle T2i footage in Premiere. Would someone be kind enough to edit this original and tell me what your settings were? I’ve spent hours messing around with the stock Premiere adjustment tools and I can’t get the look I want.
This was shot on a T2i with Cinestyle at its default settings.
Here is a photo of the place, cropped and downsized to 1920×1080 – notice how you can see the texture in the basket on the coffee table, among other things. The scene just looks lively.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/Paragon_Media_Storage/Family-Room–2.jpg
Here’s the raw footage – details are completely smeared and almost beyond recognition, but everyone’s been telling me to shoot with sharpness at zero!
https://s3.amazonaws.com/Paragon_Media_Storage/Family%20Room%201.MOV
This is my pathetic attempt at grading – When I try to grade it I get flickering noise from the blackness of the TV and the sofa chair. And it’s still not sharp. I used shadow/highlights, brightness/contrast, 3 color corrector, and unsharp mask (the Cinestyle LUT is WAY to aggressive and outright crushes blacks and highlights. The entire point of Cinestyle is to increase dynamic range, right???)
https://s3.amazonaws.com/Paragon_Media_Storage/Family%20Room.mp4
Can anyone help me?
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There is a big difference between a picture taken with that camera, and video recorded with that camera. BIG difference. DPI is one, image resolution is another. You can get a lot more image quality out of a still image than you can a video image…even from the same camera. There is no way to get photo-quality imagery from that camera shooting video. They are just different beasts. Apples and oranges.
Shane
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But what physically causes that? It’s the same lens. The same sensor. The same light. What gives? Bandwidth or something?
The same light hits the sensor. What causes it to be recorded so differently?
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HDSLR cameras do not make an image smaller the same way Photoshop does. They throw away lots of information between pixels when creating the image in the camera, hence loss of resolution.
DSLR camera sensors are not optimised for moving pictures they’re optimised for still images.
The codec you are recording on – H264 – is highly compressed and created after what I’ve just stated above.
Recording video in HDSLRs was added at the request of news organisations so their still shooters could record video if necessary. Traditional print organisations now need video for their online outlets. The appeal to traditional cinematographers was the low depth of field opportunity comparable to 35mm movie film cameras and lenses. Their low light performance especially when compared to 1/3″ chip video cameras and finally their compactness. It’s always baffled me that people go and buy one of these cameras with a kit zoom that is f4.5 / f5.6. In doing this they have destroyed the first two reasons to choose these cameras.
That all said you can get great images from these cameras but you need a very thorough understanding of cinematography and working with the limitations this technology imposes on you.
Using Cinestyle requires a knowledge of color grading in post as it plays with the chroma and luminance curves. Have you tried applying the LUT from Technicolor? You can do this with a free plugin LUT Buddy from Magic Bullet.
Cinematographer, Steadicam Operator, Final Cut Pro Post Production.
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[Victor Lin] “But what physically causes that? It’s the same lens. The same sensor. The same light. What gives? Bandwidth or something?”
Bandwidth is one. This is something that the makers of RED said to themselves too. “Hey, a DSLR takes these really sharp pictures with a big sensor…how can we do the same with a video camera?” Thus their looooooooong excursion into making a camera that does that. Now they have done things like use a proprietary codec because of many issues…all technical and I’m not a camera person so I cannot explain it.
But is does deal with data rate, processing power, bandwidth…many factors. You just cannot get the same quality with video that you do with stills on a DSLR. As I said, RED worked on that, and they seemed to have cracked it.
[Victor Lin] “The same light hits the sensor. What causes it to be recorded so differently?”
The dynamics of still photography and video are very very different.
Shane
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Read this. It explains it all in detail.
https://prolost.com/blog/2009/12/3/you-didnt-believe-me.html
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