can not do an insert edit with machina and LHe

[Jeron Coolman]

The FX570 is “PCIe 2.0 compliant” and I’m pretty sure your s5000xvn motherboard is PCIe 1.0. Now the FX570 is supposed to be backwards compatible with PCIe 1.0, but I’ve seen issues with AGP where the cards were supposed to be backwards compatible with earlier versions of AGP and they weren’t.

I’ll bet your FX570 problem has to do with this. Maybe the firmware of the FX570 and/or motherboard BIOS need to get the PCIe 2.0 -> PCIe 1.0 backwards compatibility ironed out?

If the FX570 isn’t handling the PCIe 1.0 backwards compatibility properly, it might be trying to draw too much resources from the bus. That could explain why, when you have the Aja board on the same PCI bus, it flakes out.

[Pekin Azer]

…so I assume you’ve checked all the points outlined in the AJA support message and the problem persists?

YES.

[Pekin Azer]

Maybe, i don’t know…the fx 570 works with the aja… it doesn’t work if i try to install the driver for 570… if that is caused by what you are saying, i will have the bios updated…

Pekin

[Pekin Azer]

How many working days did it take them to respond to the post on their web site?

it has been about a week….

and the reply that i got was to my post in creativecow… i still didn’t get a reply to my inbox from aja support…

[Pekin Azer]

So the 570 works if you don’t install a driver; e.g. running in “windows plug-in-play” mode?

yes…yes…. it only works in plug-in-play mode….

i somehow solved this problem…. i bought an fx 4400… but, i will do a bios update…

my important problem is insert edit…. i really need help with this one….

[Jeron Coolman]

[pekin] “the fx 570 works with the aja… it doesn’t work if i try to install the driver for 570”

This is where you sort of loose me. You made a comment like this in the other thread that I didn’t understand.

You are saying that “the fx 570 works with the aja” yet it doesn’t work if you try to install the driver for the 570.

So the 570 works if you don’t install a driver; e.g. running in “windows plug-in-play” mode?

It still sounds like an nVidia driver issue to me and not an Aja issue. I wonder if the system would work with the FX570 and another PCIe card in the machine in place of the Aja card?

When I read reviews of the “second generation PCI-Express” cards, like the one toward the bottom on this page…

https://www.behardware.com/news/lire/14-09-2007/

… and see quotes like…

“One interesting detail, according to the same sources, is that these last three cards will support second generation PCI-Express. The PCI-E controller inside the G84 will be capable of functioning at the speeds of the new norm, however, its specifications will not be entirely supported in hardware. Therefore, certain drivers and bios will be necessary in order for it to actually function in practice.”

… it gives me some concern when it comes to trying to run these cards on “first generation PCI-Express” motherboards.

[Jeff Brown]

Pekin- I suspect & hope the slow response from AJA tech was an anomaly. I emailed them about a non-critical issue, and had a response in a couple of hours.

-jeff

[Pekin Azer]

ok… i will send them a new e-mail..