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  • Can Markers rendered with avi clips be reimported into new project?

    Posted by Videocool on August 23, 2005 at 6:57 pm

    Hi there…

    Today’s question: If I render a series of avi clips with the save project markers in media file option and then import them into a new project (where they are seen as media markers???) can they be used as regular markers?

    If so how can this be done?
    If I render an avi with saved markers as an mpeg and then import that into DVDA… the markers are seen.

    If I render a new avi based on the clips with the media markers in them, then the markers are not seen in DVDA??

    Thanks…

    Steve

    Sony VX-1000 and others, P4 3gHz,
    3000 Gigabytes Online(Not Enough), AMD64 laptop, Vegas+DVD-Architect, ReelDVD, DVFILM, Lightwave, Photoshop, Independent Production Since 1985

    Videocool replied 20 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Gary Kleiner

    August 23, 2005 at 7:56 pm

    Shift/Ctrl/k will let you see the markers and regions saved within the events. You will have to manually place markers and regions in the new project (which can be done fairly quickly unless there are a zillion of them).

    Gary

  • Videocool

    August 23, 2005 at 8:55 pm

    [Gary Kleiner] “Shift/Ctrl/k will let you see the markers and regions saved within the events. You will have to manually place markers and regions in the new project (which can be done fairly quickly unless there are a zillion of them).”

    Hey Gary…

    Thanks… I figured I had to manually replace the markers, but I thought I’d better check with those more
    knowledgeable (bummer – should be an option to keep markers rendered in avi clips).

    I should probably learn to script things like this… but I just programmed it into my shuttlepro…

    (#1 Jump to next edit – twice) This gets the cursor to end of the next transition.

    (#2 Move 10 frames right) This place the marker into the title of the clip.

    (#3 – Insert Marker) Yep, that’s what it does.

    (#4 Mouse wheel down one step) Closes the Marker Naming window and centers the cursor.

    Lather-Rinse-Repeat

    If anyone has a script to do this… I think jeditdv has one for putting a marker at the beginning of each edit point… but most of the time, my markers need to be a bit past the ending of the transition between two clips.

    Thanks again… Steve

    Sony VX-1000 and others, P4 3gHz,
    3000 Gigabytes Online(Not Enough), AMD64 laptop, Vegas+DVD-Architect, ReelDVD, DVFILM, Lightwave, Photoshop, Independent Production Since 1985

  • Gary Kleiner

    August 23, 2005 at 9:57 pm

    You can select markers (e.g. Click the first, and shift/click the last), them move them all at once.

    Gary

  • Donatello

    August 23, 2005 at 10:20 pm

    ALSO you can get your marker/regions into a new project by copy/paste in edit details using the OLD veg that you used for rendering …

    IE: the old veg – say the edit starts at 20 sec and ends at 29 min and has many regions/markers .. you render out the new clip .. you then can either copy the veg and say rename to new veg 1- delete all the media and then drop the new rendered clip into TL starting at 20 sec = now all the markers /regions will line up to the clip …

    now if you want to drop another new clip from a old veg at the end of new veg 1 – you then make a copy of the 2nd old veg- then insert TIME so the edit starts at 30min and lets just say ends ends at 45min .. you then go into edit details MARKERS and copy all the markers -then go to new veg 1 and paste into edit details markers = all the markers will go into TL starting at 30min .. next copy/paste regions … now drop the new rendered clip into new veg 1 TL … now you can close the 1 min gap between 29 & 30 min ( ripple edit so all region/markers slide)

    you can keep adding to TL . just remember to keep inserting time into the old veg to get the markers/regions to start where the current vegs ends – in example above it now ends at 45min so i would insert 46min of TIME at head of next old veg – copy/paste region/markers then come back and close that 1 min gap …

  • Videocool

    August 23, 2005 at 10:35 pm

    [Gary Kleiner] “You can select markers (e.g. Click the first, and shift/click the last), them move them all at once.

    Gary”

    Hey Gary…

    I did not know that… I can see the media markers… (well not right now, I’m rendering an MPEG) but the media markers (the ones rendered with the avi clips – they have dashed lines and don’t have marker heads) don’t seem to respond to most typical marker stuff. You can’t snap a cursor to them (although I think you can use them as snaplines to edit to: e.g., one clip can snap to the marker on another clip to set a transition point), so the file is carrying some information about the marker, it just doesn’t appear as a regular marker in Vegas and thus doesn’t appear in DVDA (unless I’m doing or not doing something wrong) when rendered as an MPEG.

    Sometimes it may seem like I’m harping on a small point, but many of my projects require me to do the same thing over and over hundreds of times, so a small point could be a major time saver. For instance, being able to set markers in Vegas and then import them in DVDA is reason enought to buy DVDA as opposed to some other authoring program. But once I got a taste of importing markers into DVDA I just wanted to import them into Vegas.

    But to be clear, I’m not talking about importing a .veg file, with all kinds of stuff embedded in it; just a single .avi file or twenty of them, with markers that could then be rerendered into MPEG and imported into DVDA.

    Thanks…

    Steve

    Sony VX-1000 and others, P4 3gHz,
    3000 Gigabytes Online(Not Enough), AMD64 laptop, Vegas+DVD-Architect, ReelDVD, DVFILM, Lightwave, Photoshop, Independent Production Since 1985

  • Videocool

    August 23, 2005 at 10:38 pm

    [donatello] “ALSO you can get your marker/regions into a new project by copy/paste in edit details using the OLD veg that you used for rendering …”

    aaaahhh…

    Donatello beat me to the punch (uh, post)… I kinda knew that you could import marker data and other stuff with veg files… but that is not quite what I’m talking about… see post above.

    Steve

    Sony VX-1000 and others, P4 3gHz,
    3000 Gigabytes Online(Not Enough), AMD64 laptop, Vegas+DVD-Architect, ReelDVD, DVFILM, Lightwave, Photoshop, Independent Production Since 1985

  • Mahesh Upadhyaya

    August 24, 2005 at 1:29 pm

    The trimmer seems to preserve the marker information. So if an AVI clip is opened in the trimmer, the marker information, including the comments can be viewed.
    Now all we need is,
    place curser at the marker in the trimmer.
    A Script to copy that to the time line.

    But I suppose that is out of the reach of scripting 🙂

    Regards
    Mahesh
    https://www.crestvideo.co.uk

  • Videocool

    August 24, 2005 at 2:49 pm

    [mahesh] “The trimmer seems to preserve the marker information. So if an AVI clip is opened in the trimmer, the marker information, including the comments can be viewed.
    Now all we need is,
    place curser at the marker in the trimmer.
    A Script to copy that to the time line.

    But I suppose that is out of the reach of scripting 🙂

    Regards
    Mahesh
    ” target=”_blank”>https://www.crestvideo.co.uk”

    Hey Mahesh…

    The marker information is kept somewhere… (perhaps a guru knows)… it shows up in Vegas as media markers; I don’t know much about programming… but it would seem the Vegas timeline could access this info too. I’ve used Vegas since 3.0 and I’ve never really used the trimmer… I’ve always just worked directly from the timeline, but I’ll look into the capabilities of the trimmer soon.

    Thanks…

    Steve

    Sony VX-1000 and others, P4 3gHz,
    3000 Gigabytes Online(Not Enough), AMD64 laptop, Vegas+DVD-Architect, ReelDVD, DVFILM, Lightwave, Photoshop, Independent Production Since 1985

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