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  • Can I see an Audio Sample Plot in my source monitor?

    Posted by Bryan Roberts on September 14, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Hey all – I’ve gone through two different Avid books and tried searches but came up empty. I regularly use the sample audio plot given to me in FCP on the source monitor to help find just the right point in a song to sting out or loop before I pull the clip onto the timeline but Avid doesn’t by default display the audio sample plot in the source monitor like FCP. Is there a way to see this? A thousand thanks.

    FCP / AVID EDITOR
    Features : Television
    http://www.DefiningFilms.com

    Richard Strom replied 16 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • John Cuevas

    September 14, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    On the bottom-left of the timeline is a pulldown(fast menu). Open that up and go to audio data-there are multiple choices there. Along with that, if you hold down Cntl and move over the layer number(A1..A2) you will be given an arrow that will allow you to expand the layer, which will make it a lot easier to see the audio sample. Lastly, selecting the layer and hitting Cntl-Alt-K will decrease the size of the plot, while Cntl-Alt-L will increase it’s size.

    Plots take awhile to draw, so I don’t leave them on much, but instead have created different timeline workspace views, “edit”, “audio”, “digitize” “effects”. Just have to hit Cntl-1, Cntl-2 and the avid switches workspaces. If you look up workspaces in the help, it will describes how to do it.

    Johnny Cuevas, Editor
    http://www.ckandco.net

  • Bryan Roberts

    September 14, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Brilliant sir, thank you very much.

    FCP / AVID EDITOR
    Features : Television
    http://www.DefiningFilms.com

  • Bryan Roberts

    September 14, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    I’m sorry, I just realized, this wasn’t what I was looking for – I already know how to do that. I’m talking about in the left window monitor before laying down a music track into my timeline. Is there a way to see a sample plot of the waveform so I can choose where to lay my in point or out point BEFORE insert editing etc. into the timeline?

    FCP / AVID EDITOR
    Features : Television
    http://www.DefiningFilms.com

  • Jon Zanone

    September 15, 2009 at 3:16 am

    You can’t see the waveform in the monitor. But using the method described by John, you should see the timeline waveform if you switch to the source timeline view. It’s a button near the fast menu John described.

    Jon

    Be curious, not judgmental.
    Walt Whitman

  • Ed Cilley

    September 16, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Bryan,

    You have some good advice here. Here’s another tip to take some ideas mentioned a little further.

    At the bottom of the timeline is a View Menu (between the red Segment Mode arrow and the Source/Record Mode) that is super handy for switching between your personalized settings. I think it is labeled as “Default”. It’s a boring timeline to begin with, but you can change it all you want.

    For audio, I go to the timeline hamburger and choose Audio Data>Sample Plot. Then I highlight the tracks I want to enlarge (let’s say A1&A2), deselect all others and hit Ctrl+L to enlarge those tracks. Then I click on “Default” and choose “Save as..” I type in “Sample 1&2”. You can repeat this for other track as you see necessary. I also make video tracks smaller by activating them, and clicking Ctrl+K.

    I have about 10 different settings for various editing needs.

    By the way, my default setting is labeled as “Don’t Click Here” – ’cause I can.

    Hope the tips help.

    Ed

    _________________________________________________
    Anything worth doing at all, is worth doing well.
    – Philip Dormer Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield

  • Bryan Roberts

    September 16, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    That’s a great tip Ed, thanks! I guess I’ll have to learn to accept this difference – that’s something I do in FCP just about every single time I use the program, I look at the audio plot in the source monitor before plopping music/sfx in my timeline. It seems like Avid puts an emphasis on being more precise before putting your clips onto a timeline, I’m curious why it seems the opposite with audio. Nevertheless, this will definitely help me out!

    FCP / AVID EDITOR
    Features : Television
    http://www.DefiningFilms.com

  • Ed Cilley

    September 17, 2009 at 1:18 am

    [Bryan Roberts] “something I do in FCP just about every single time I use the program”

    Bryan, I agree. I use both programs and LOVE the sample plot in the source window – before I edit it into the timeline. However the suggestion earlier in the thread allows you to switch the timeline between source and record.

    Sample plot in source window – feature request.
    https://community.avid.com/forums/t/75214.aspx

    Ed

    _________________________________________________
    Anything worth doing at all, is worth doing well.
    – Philip Dormer Stanhope, Earl of Chesterfield

  • Richard Strom

    September 20, 2009 at 7:28 am

    Bryan, just use the Toggle Source / Record button and you’ll see the sample plot of the audio clip loaded into the source monitor: You then can set In / Out points and splice or overwrite it in your timeline as usual.

    The button is mapped to the ESC key in the default setup, which in my opinion is not very handy; I mapped it to the Z key on a QWERTZ keyboard.

    Cheers
    Dennis

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