Can I render Vegas in H.264?

[John Rofrano]

Use the Sony AVC or Main Concept AVC render type. If you have an older copy of Vegas your options will be limited to SD. Newer versions added HD support.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com

[Norman Willis]

OK, I got it rendered. I’m not sure I got all the specs exactly right, but at least I got it posted on time.

You deserve a medal, or something.

I am looking forward to time to finish all of rest of the training DVD’s.

Norman

[Norman Willis]

I heard that Sony AVC was for PSP? Or does it work for YouTube and Vimeo as well?

The goal is to upload SD, HQ and HD to Vimeo, YouTube, Metacafe and the rest.

[John Rofrano]

> I heard that Sony AVC was for PSP? Or does it work for YouTube and Vimeo as well?

In Vegas 7 and earlier the Sony AVC encoder only had support for PSP size renders. Starting with Vegas Pro 8.0 it has support for full HD 1920×1080 Blu-ray rendering. YouTube and Vimeo require only 720p so Sony AVC is perfect for this as long as you have Vegas Pro 8.0 or 9.0.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com

[Norman Willis]

>Starting with Vegas Pro 8.0 it has support for full HD 1920×1080 Blu-ray rendering. YouTube and Vimeo require only 720p so Sony AVC is perfect for this as long as you have Vegas Pro 8.0 or 9.0.

Excellent. I will give that a try come daylight. Thanks

[Brett Underberg-davis]

Hopefully there’s a fairly simple answer for this that won’t call for waiting for the first patch to Pro 9.0.

From the time I installed Pro 9.0 a few weeks ago, I have been unable to render using the MainConcept AVC/AAC codec combo. Sony AVC has worked fine, but in Pro 8.0c I’d become accustomed to using MainConcept over the Sony version and would at least like to compare them. Since search did not reveal this as a screaming issue either here or on Sony’s own forums, I’m guessing that perhaps the codecs simply did not install properly or I’m missing something else in the set up.

When I have tried rendering using any of the existing presets that came as part of the basic installation, a fatal exception occurs that crashes Vegas Pro 9 completely.

Following are the “problem details” that are provided in the problem report module that pops up after Vegas freezes:

Problem Description
Application Name: Vegas Pro
Application Version: Version 9.0 (Build 563)
Problem: Unmanaged Exception (0xc0000005)
Fault Module: C:Program Files (x86)SonyVegas Pro 9.0FileIO Plug-Insmcmp4plugmcmp4plug.dll
Fault Address: 0x130420E5
Fault Offset: 0x000020E5

Fault Process Details
Process Path: C:Program Files (x86)SonyVegas Pro 9.0vegas90.exe
Process Version: Version 9.0 (Build 563)
Process Description: Vegas Pro
Process Image Date: 2009-04-17 (Fri Apr 17) 13:12:56

Any/all helpful suggestions appreciated.

[John Rofrano]

I would report exceptions to Sony. If you can give them a reproducible test case, that’s even better. Don’t expect a fix to your problem in an update unless you report the problem.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Brett Underberg-davis]

Thanks for the advice.

I’ve been reporting this repeatedly, at least by means of the crash reporter, in the most verbose formats that facility provides. Though, after having it happen and reporting it a few times after I installed 9.0 Pro, I did simply avoid MainConcept codecs for several weeks while learning the other new features of Pro 9.0

I was just asking here since the forums here seem to be somewhat more active than Sony’s and I thought I might confirm whether others were seeing the same error, or could spot signs in the error details that might suggest an interim workaround, or give some sense whether a reinstall might be desirable or likely to fix the issue, or just a waste of time.

Since I can render adequately for now both for DVD production and streaming on vimeo or YouTube, and the MainConcept codecs are desirable but non-essential (in my case), I was hoping to get some sense of the issue that would tell me if a reinstall was likely to be a waste of time, considering the effects this has on my workflow for now.

Again, thank you…the crashes have been reported each time they’ve happened.

[Norman Willis]

I don’t know if this will help you or not, but I’ve got VP9 x32 and x64 both running very stable on fresh install of Vista 64 Ultimate on a Dell T3400 desktop. I’m brand new as an editor, but I expected a lot of crashes, and so far have not had a single one. (I’m having trouble getting Cineform NeoScene to stay running, but that is a separate issue.)

On the other hand, I have a Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop that I cannot seem to get Vegas to do more than stay open a few minutes. I use the laptop as my ‘test bed’ machine, and I have loaded and unloaded a ton of stuff, and I suspect that a clean install of Vista would do wonders for it.

As I am doing fresh installs, I am doing a full disk image (to an external hard drive that I set off to one side) once I have everything installed, and up and running.

I’m just curious: how recent is your OS? Might a fresh re-install help? I know that is typically a groaner, because for me that would take a couple of days of nursing things: but with the addition of a clean disk image I am hoping that in the future, a clean ‘drive wipe’ won’t take any more than a couple of hours.

It’s just a question. I hope it helps.

Norman Willis
http://www.nazareneisrael.org
servant@nazareneisrael.org

[Brett Underberg-davis]

Thanks for the suggestion, but to get one (non-essential) codec set to (possibly) work, I really can’t justify the amount of lost time of a fresh OS install. If I were going to reinstall the OS I’d probably go for Windows 7 in any case, and frankly, I don’t like wasting my time living on the bleeding edge any more. 😉

Also, please confirm to me that you have rendered with the Main Concept AVC presets (at least the built-in preset templates?) Just about everything in the rest of Vegas 9.0 is working, and working much better than Pro 8.0c ever worked. Since the MainConcept codecs DID work (and probably still work) in the Pro 8.0c installation I’ve left available, an OS reinstall seems a bit drastic and unnecessary at this point. If something really big was not working I’d certainly have to consider it, though. But since there’s almost no way to make money with streaming video, (and the ways that do exist have nothing to do with rendering quality) the difference between the Sony AVC/AAC set and MainConcept is pretty non-essential for my needs, at least.

The machine is a little over one year old, and I intentionally have installed very little other software on it that is not directly usable for rendering. If I continue to research and find that there are many people using the MainConcept codecs without a hitch, I may resort to a reinstall of Vegas but reinstalling the OS is a last resort for me. Especially reinstalling Vista. I’m frankly looking forward to a day when it would be realistic to do my work in linux, but I suspect Win7 is probably in my future before that fantasy comes true.

Also, I wouldn’t even try to run Vegas Pro 8.0 or 9.0 on a laptop myself. Their video drivers are never that stable and they run way too hot for my taste usually with very inadequate ventilation and cooling though I suppose you might put one on one of those cooling devices and see if you could keep it stable, for me, the adventure would be too much… I don’t like losing any more work than I have to, given other options.