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Can either of the two NLE’s do this
Since this forum seems to have both the Adobe and Apple camps I’m wondering if anyone knows if this is possible. I have clips that are 60fps on a 24 timeline. This is fine. Now at some point I need a clip to play in slo mo. Is there a way setting or plugin that will allow me to force a clip to play all its frames so I get slo mo. Just using the speed change does this based on the twenty four frames of the timeline. I like high quality slo mo without having to go out to compressor.
Thanks for any tipsThanks,
Vince Sanchez
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PPro has the ability to “interpret clip as (frame rate)”. I am not sure of FCPx as I am not familiar with it.
Michael
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FCPX supports native frame rate playback, under speed, just choose conform and it’ll play back frame for frame, slow mo for 60fps in a 24fps timeline.
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David Chai
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You may not be happy with the results you get from slomoing 24fps footage – it tends to stutter because of the smaller number of frames than 30 or 60fps. Generally, you want to use frame blending to smooth this over. Do a Google search on “frame blending in slomo” and you’ll find a number of examples illustrating the results.
Joe Bourke
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If you have AE you should check out the “Timewarp” effect. I don’t know how it does it but it creates beautiful slo-mo from regular footage that looks like it was shot at a higher frame rate even though it wasn’t.
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Yea, Greg –
Timewarp is based on The Foundry’s Kronos technology, used quite a bit in high-end productions. Without getting in over my head, it basically figures out where the pixels would be if there was actually a frame in-between the existing frames. It then creates actual frames based on optical flow and motion estimation, and inserts them between the existing frames – looks like magic to me…
Joe Bourke
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I think he’s talking about the reverse. Taking 60fps in a 24p sequence.
In his case, using the conform tool, each second of 60fps video would become 2:10 in a 24fps sequence.
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I’ve used Timewarp. It can produce nice results, but it seemed to take a lot of tweeking to tune out artifacts.
RE:VisionFX Twixtor is my usual go-to, optical flow tool.
I think Timewarp is available inside of Premiere as well as AE.
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[Scott Thomas] “RE:VisionFX Twixtor is my usual go-to, optical flow tool.”
Agreed. Expensive but worth it.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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The FCPX speed tool also allows you to use Optical Flow for your retiming, and it’s pretty good too.
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David Chai
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Great info everyone. I’ll be checking out the options mentioned. I’m well aware of AE and Twixtor use both. Just had a quick project I was working on and started wondering if I could just do it on the timeline with reasonable quality.
Thanks,
Vince Sanchez
Intel Quad Mac 2.66
AJA LHe
HD link
OSX 10.4.11
FCP Studio 2
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