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  • Aaron Cadieux

    January 11, 2008 at 3:04 am

    Thanks, but my original post was asking what I should charge for spots like these… As far as I’m concerend they aren’t great, but they’re not the worst local commercials I’ve seen. Thanks.

    -Aaron

  • Randall Raymond

    January 11, 2008 at 3:12 am

    Ditto everything Bill just said. The web-site is migraine-nasty.

  • Aaron Cadieux

    January 11, 2008 at 3:13 am

    The spots are now on YouTube.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=mBWrClepmQA

    Now you guys can avoid the site.

    Thanks.

    -Aaron

  • Randall Raymond

    January 11, 2008 at 3:55 am

    [Aaron Cadieux] “The spots are now on YouTube.”

    I don’t think YouTube is the place for any video professional to exhibit their work. The encoding on YouTube is horrible by any standard. Delivery is everything. Professionals should know how to deliver video to the internet.

  • Aaron Cadieux

    January 11, 2008 at 4:07 am

    Well, you can explain your theory to the production houses that encode movie trailers SPECIFICALLY for YouTube, and to all the presidential candidates whose professional videographers/editors all compress video specifically for posting on YouTube. Like it or not, YouTube is used by the professional community on a regular basis.

    It’s amazing. I ask for feedback on something specific and all I get are critiques of my web site and lectures on ‘professionalism’. Creativecow is great most of the time, but sometimes it’s like banging your head against the wall while being surrounded by a ‘holier than thou’ mentality.

  • Randall Raymond

    January 11, 2008 at 4:29 am

    [Aaron Cadieux] “Creativecow is great most of the time, but sometimes it’s like banging your head against the wall while being surrounded by a ‘holier than thou’ mentality.”

    Give me a break! Your website sucks. Big time. You can’t deliver up video. What do you want people to say here?

  • Aaron Cadieux

    January 11, 2008 at 4:41 am

    Let me go through this again.

    I posted on this forum looking for feedback on how to price commercials.

    Then all the Mac users started to complain that they couldn’t see the videos.

    So I posted them on YouTube so that people could see them.

    Then, people like you are still harping about the look of the web site when that had nothing to do with my original post.

    I could understand your point if I had posted in a “please critique my web site” forum, but I didn’t. Once the commercials were up on YouTube, all discussion about my web site (whether it ‘sucks’ or not) should have stopped. When I’m looking for feedback on the fonts and color scheme on my web site, I will let you know.

  • Randall Raymond

    January 11, 2008 at 4:52 am

    [Aaron Cadieux] “Then, people like you are still harping about the look of the web site when that had nothing to do with my original post.”

    Well, it does. Every communication that you put out to public is an indicator. Pretend I’m a potential client.

    Right now, you suck. What are you going to do about that reaction? Blame the potential client? Or get your act together? Stop being such a whiner. You’re a friggin’ baby.

    Welcome to the real world. I don’t think people are mean here – they’re realistic and accurate and experienced. Can you deal with that?

  • Aaron Cadieux

    January 11, 2008 at 5:12 am

    Ok, let me see if can get you to understand my logic.

    If you had responded “I looked at your commercials, and you shouldn’t be charging more than $200.00 for any of them, because they ‘suck'”, then I would have been fine with that, because it is relevant to my original post.

    Unfortunately, egotistical “professionals” (who actually use the word ‘suck’ and or ‘sucked’ in a professional forum) like you are more interested in criticizing than anything else. This is what you did.

    “Hmm, since I have a MAC, I can’t seem to view this guy’s videos”

    “Oh well, I might as well tell him that his web site sucks”

    “Oh look, he put his videos up on YouTube instead. Well, I’d better not respond to his original post. Instead, I’ll keep harping about his web site, because I love to criticize people, especially when they are not asking for my opinion about what I am citicizing. While I’m at it, I’ll give him a lecture on the unprofessionalism of posting on YouTube, even though it’s the world’s largest online video resource, and professionals across the globe use it to post their work. Wow, I am so much better than everyone”.

  • Rick Dolishny

    January 11, 2008 at 5:13 am

    Aaron I am compelled to comment.

    Your request for pricing info won’t fly if your video doesn’t play. I’m using WXPSP2 and no go on your videos. They don’t play and you’re on the COW asking for professional advice. I’d say get your video codec issue resolved.

    Personally your website doesn’t appeal to me but it’s been said before.

    What I am really offended by is your cavalier attitude regarding your employer who you admit “doesn’t pay you much” but right there on your site is a reference to RJ Lachance.

    “In October of 2005, Aaron began a full-time position as a video editor with R.J. LaChance, an advertising agency in
    East Providence, Rhode Island.”

    I’m going to assume this is the cheap boss you didn’t sign a non-compete contract with.

    Dude, it’s a small world and if you want to play in it you gotta follow a few rules. Like if you’re a video producer put video on your site people can see. And under NO circumstances publically dis anyone in your industry. Be cool, and by all means dish at the pub privately, but you are so very burned or making things hard with your attitude towards your employer, and the professionals on the COW who are really just trying their best to respond to your call for help, or input.

    And to answer your question about pricing, there are plenty of freelance guides on the web that do a handy job of figuring out your total cost of hire.


    Rick Dolishny
    Discrete Editors COW Leader
    http://www.thecreativeprocess.ca

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