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buying a new system for realtime 4k in davinci resolve
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I was told the X99 system with either the 5960X 8 Core clocked at 4.5GHz or one of the E5 V3 Xeons is the way to go now for GPU acceleration applications. From what I was told DDR4 is making a large impact on performance especially GPU and the load a cpu can put on them. Someone suggested 64GB of ram because 2666 seems to be the peak of where DDR4 stability is right now. Also I heard that waiting on the new 980GTX cards may be a good idea versus the Titan cards. Thats because of the updated HDMi 2.0 output options.
I have a few questions for all of you regarding upgrading. Is it best to wait if he is wanting a new system for realtime 4k? I mean im hearing rumors about Thunderbolt 3 now coming sooner than expected. Also new cards with HDMI 2.0?? Also Displayport 1.3?? Not to mention USB 3.1C coming out soon as well. What is the most reliable route to go? It is getting really confusing. MAC or PC? What will be most beneficial for the next TWO years before he has to upgrade again??
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Thanks Malcom! I’ll check into this
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Any feedback on what I said above? I think I made some good points. Lots of questions that I hope the more technical guys can answer..
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I think someone needs to standardize what 4k your talking about. You can currently do 4k on a MacPro using a Compressed codec like ProRes using Apple Final Cut Pro Color X fx or whatever its called, but that is not the same 4k as someone doing Uncompressed 4k DPX in realtime with multilayers Cross desolves, OFX effects and 30 Nodes Deep of Layers of Keys and Grades on Resolve.
Figure out your workflow and what you want to do. Its 4k so you can sell the idea of 4k to a bunch of prospective clients? Or is it do deal with your current 4k workflow and client needs for archiving and backup and 35mm film outs.
I think the new MacPro’s are pretty trash cans, i would buy one for the home, but they took a 10 year jump backwards with Thunderbolts replacement for PCI. Thunderbolt is a great replacement for Firewire and some external connections, but it is not a replacement for a real PCI bus. The fastest the Thunderbolt can do is 4X, you will not and can not do good GPU expansion with 4x, at least not to deal with 4k, their is way too much bottleneck. Even if thunderbolt 3 gets secretly released it could only be 8x max.
That being said their is no reliable route, its more a route of what you want, and what you want to do. You want the 4k BEST OF BEST on all Platforms and all workflows. well that doesn’t exist.
Great that LINUX for Resolve is more Open, maybe thats the route you want to take, but OpenSource Quicktime is horrible, so you would have to do DPX.
As for new HDMI, Displayport and USB, those are just connections and don’t really define a 4k workflow, more just ways to connect a monitor or device.
I have a few questions for all of you regarding upgrading. Is it best to wait if he is wanting a new system for realtime 4k? I mean im hearing rumors about Thunderbolt 3 now coming sooner than expected. Also new cards with HDMI 2.0?? Also Displayport 1.3?? Not to mention USB 3.1C coming out soon as well. What is the most reliable route to go? It is getting really confusing. MAC or PC? What will be most beneficial for the next TWO years before he has to upgrade again??
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2k, 4k, 8k, ugh!
I just completed a “minor” upgrade to my system and will try to wait out the new x99 chips to see what the true performance is. Everything I shoot is still HD, and hopefully will be for a while, as upgrading my entire system from camera to computer to storage is quite expensive, and for the work I do is unnecessary as clients would not pay for it.
I am just getting started with Resolve 10, soon 11, as soon as I’m done grading a current job, not wanting to upgrade during a project!
Why not grade in 2k and then render out a 4k if needed by linking files?
An offline/online workflow used to be standard procedure. Is there a significant difference with grading 4k material at 4k on your monitors and in real time? Perhaps someone who has done this could post a few comments.I have found that noise reduction bogs my system down, but not color nodes, so I’ll be turning off NR till my last pass and then enable for render. A cheaper solution than new graphics cards and a CPU, but then I generally do not have clients in the room wanting it done “right now.”
Malcolm
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Just finished upgrading the CPU to a xeon 5680 with 24Gb of ram. I have noticed a boost in performance with my system. Next up is to install a 3 drive raid0 for boosting playback performance. Next year a Mother board & CPU upgrade, but not for a while.
Malcolm
http://www.malcolmproductions.com
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