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  • Burning Mpeg2s with DVD Architect 2.0

    Posted by Princess on September 1, 2005 at 8:42 pm

    From Vegas 5 I render my videos as Mpeg2s and then I burn them in DVD Architect. Unfortunately, I have discovered that my finished DVD product will only play in new DVD players and it WILL NOT play in my computer. My DVD player does not read the disc, and I’ve tried DVD players in multiple computers. (I would think the disc would play in my computer before it would play in a traditional DVD player.)
    I’m not sure where I am going wrong. Initially with rendering? Burning? Or even at the very beginning when deciding the properties for my video.
    Any suggestions.

    Allen Zagel replied 20 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Allen Zagel

    September 2, 2005 at 10:06 am

    Hi
    What kind of burner and media are you using? Also what DVD player do you use in your computer? Your problem suggests to me that something’s wrong with your player in your computer.

    Can you insert the DVD in your computer, go to windows explorer or my-computer (I assume you’re using Windows and not a MAC) and see the directory structure on the DVD?

    Has this happened may times of just once? It could be a bad DVD disk also.

    Allen

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    https://www.azagel.com

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  • Videocool

    September 2, 2005 at 2:48 pm

    [Princess] “From Vegas 5 I render my videos as Mpeg2s and then I burn them in DVD Architect. Unfortunately, I have discovered that my finished DVD product will only play in new DVD players and it WILL NOT play in my computer. My DVD player does not read the disc, and I’ve tried DVD players in multiple computers. (I would think the disc would play in my computer before it would play in a traditional DVD player.)
    I’m not sure where I am going wrong. Initially with rendering? Burning? Or even at the very beginning when deciding the properties for my video.
    Any suggestions.”

    Hi there…

    We might need a bit more information to precisely figure out what’s going on, but I’ll start with some basics.

    You might want to test these suggestions with a smaller project to make the whole process go faster.

    These are troubleshooting suggestions (or troublefree techniques, whatever…).

    Begin with a single avi clip. In other words if you have transitions, filters or whatever they should all be rendered into the avi clip before you render to MPEG.

    OK so you have a single avi clip laying on the timeline… maybe 20 minutes long. (29.97 fps video and 48000 Hz audio).

    If you have Marker points set they can be used in DVDA as chapter points. As long as you select Save Markers during the Render.

    Render it into MPEG using the MainConcept MPEG2 DVD Architect NTSC Video Stream Template settings, you do not need to customize it. (If you are in Europe use PAL… 😉

    Vegas comes up with a default MPEG render Template selected. (You do not want to use that.)

    Use the DVD Architect NTSC video stream presets… don’t change anything, don’t customize it… later on you can tweak… but right now we are troubleshooting.

    The first pass only Renders the video… you also must do an audio Render… to ac3.
    American DVD players have to play this format… they do not have to play MPEG audio… (although some of the newer units might.).

    The audio must be rendered into 48000 Hz for DVD usage. Use the DVD presets… choose the Stereo DVD Template.

    Render it to your dedicated video hard drive. Make a new folder for it… DVDTEST or something.

    Ok save your .veg in Vegas and close Vegas.

    When you are done Rendering both passes, there should be two files in that folder, a .mpg file and a .ac3 file.

    Now open DVD Architect.

    From the File choice, pick New and choose Single movie. Let’s keep it simple at this point.

    From the Explorer window drag your .mpg file to the Project Overview window.
    It should also appear in your Timeline window and the .ac3 audio clip will automatically be added (if the two files have the same name).

    It may take a minute for the audio clip to build it’s waveforms.

    If you Rendered your Markers in Vegas they should also appear, if not choose Load Markers.

    Note to any gurus out there… I started with DVD Architect 3 so if I’m giving bad directions for DVDA-2 just join in and beat me about the ears.

    If you want to add any other Markers you can do that now as well.

    Save the project.

    Test the project in the Preview window… plays OK… Chapters work. Good. Close the Preview.

    Save your DAR.

    Now choose: Make DVD.

    You can choose three things here… you don’t need to choose Master unless you are going to Replicate your project… probably not.

    If you have a Burning program like NERO 6… you can choose Prepare… which sets up the files for Nero to use. (This is the technique I use… it adds just a little bit more compatibility in my tests… OK it makes DVD-R’s that will play in my daughter’s cheap DVD player, but I find that to be a very useful test).

    If you don’t have NERO, use the Burn choice.

    Use the highest quality media… (Verbatim, Fujifilm or MAM-A have worked for me).

    Don’t multitask while you are Burning, Rendering, or anything else video related. Leave the mouse alone.

    Don’t surf the net… turn off your screensaver… make sure your Power settings are Always ON. I guess I should shut up here… that’s a whole ‘nuther post.

    Well that’s enough to get you started…

    Good Luck

    Steve

    Sony VX-1000 and others, P4 3gHz,
    3000 Gigabytes Online(Not Enough), AMD64 laptop, Vegas+DVD-Architect, ReelDVD, DVFILM, Lightwave, Photoshop, Independent Production Since 1985

  • Videocool

    September 2, 2005 at 2:54 pm

    Hi there again…

    I forgot to turn on email response to this thread… so I’m making another quick post… a few posts up above I’ve made some suggestions on menu based editing, when you get there… you may want to look those over.

    Steve

    Sony VX-1000 and others, P4 3gHz,
    3000 Gigabytes Online(Not Enough), AMD64 laptop, Vegas+DVD-Architect, ReelDVD, DVFILM, Lightwave, Photoshop, Independent Production Since 1985

  • Princess

    September 2, 2005 at 5:24 pm

    Thank You Steve and Allen,
    I will look closely at your instructions, but I first wanted to let you know my hardware and software.

    I have create three seperate movie DVDs now, with menus and chapters (but I haven’t used markers – I just do it in DVDa). All three movies have created the same results. It will play on newer DVD players and not on my computer DVD player.

    I do work in Windows. I have an IBM DVD Multi-Burner (does that help?). I have two DVD players on my computer. Neither of them will read by burned DVDs – Power DVD and interActual (is that the same co.?) Both of these softwares will play store-bought DVDs just fine.

    I capture my video as .avi and then render the entire video as mpeg2 than burn in DVD Architect.

    Steve –
    I will look at your instructions more closely today. I hope this information help all in giving me a hand!!!

  • Videocool

    September 2, 2005 at 6:44 pm

    [Princess] “I have create three seperate movie DVDs now, with menus and chapters (but I haven’t used markers – I just do it in DVDa). All three movies have created the same results. It will play on newer DVD players and not on my computer DVD player.

    I do work in Windows. I have an IBM DVD Multi-Burner (does that help?). I have two DVD players on my computer. Neither of them will read by burned DVDs – Power DVD and interActual (is that the same co.?) Both of these softwares will play store-bought DVDs just fine.

    I capture my video as .avi and then render the entire video as mpeg2 than burn in DVD Architect.”

    Hi again…

    It sounds like your system should be able to play the DVD’s. A couple of questions… are you using DVD-R’s or DVD+R’s… or even DVD-RW’s or DVD+RW’s?

    Try a simple project… just a Single Movie… no menu.

    Use the Mainconcept MPEG2 DVD Architect Video Stream presets. NTSC or PAL as you need.

    Use the .ac3 audio presets.

    One more thing. When you go thru the Prepare and Make DVD process… and you get to the Make DVD – Review Message List window… there is an Optimize button… Click that.

    Everything should be green check marks… if not, something is wrong. It will also tell you if it is going to Recompress any Video or Audio that is not Compliant.

    Another technique is just to drop the .avi clip onto the Project Overview window and let DVD-A do all the compression.

    Try a burn or two within DVD-A, if that is still not working… find the software that came with the IBM multi-burner and try a burn with that.

    I personally use NERO-6 to burn my files instead of DVD-A.

    Good luck…

    Steve

    Sony VX-1000 and others, P4 3gHz,
    3000 Gigabytes Online(Not Enough), AMD64 laptop, Vegas+DVD-Architect, ReelDVD, DVFILM, Lightwave, Photoshop, Independent Production Since 1985

  • Princess

    September 2, 2005 at 11:46 pm

    Steve –
    That is a very good question.

    [Steve] A couple of questions… are you using DVD-R’s or DVD+R’s… or even DVD-RW’s or DVD+RW’s?

    They have been DVD-Rs. Should I use something else?

    So if you use Nero, do you at least make your menu buttons and chapters in DVD-A? Does Nero write a .dar file?

  • Edward Troxel

    September 3, 2005 at 2:49 am

    [Princess] “They have been DVD-Rs. Should I use something else?”

    DVD-R is fine in most cases. That is what I use.

    [Princess] “So if you use Nero, do you at least make your menu buttons and chapters in DVD-A? Does Nero write a .dar file?”

    Nero does nothing with DAR files. What you do is create the DVD in DVD Architect and then choose the “Prepare” option. This will create a Video_TS and Audio_TS pair of folders inside the folder you specify. Now you use Nero to simply burn those prepared folders to the DVD.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Videocool

    September 3, 2005 at 4:48 am

    [jeditdv] “[Princess] “They have been DVD-Rs. Should I use something else?”

    DVD-R is fine in most cases. That is what I use.

    [Princess] “So if you use Nero, do you at least make your menu buttons and chapters in DVD-A? Does Nero write a .dar file?”

    Nero does nothing with DAR files. What you do is create the DVD in DVD Architect and then choose the “Prepare” option. This will create a Video_TS and Audio_TS pair of folders inside the folder you specify. Now you use Nero to simply burn those prepared folders to the DVD.”

    Hi guys…

    I also use DVD-R’s …

    Now about NERO…

    I use NERO SMART START… to open the program.

    I select Photo and Video and then Burn DVD- Video Files.

    That brings up a NERO Express panel where I choose ADD.

    That opens a Window called Select Files and Folders.

    I pull that window down just a little so I can see the NERO Express DVD-Video window behind it… (So I can see when the files are actually added.)

    I navigate to the folder where the DVD-Architect files are kept. Those are the files that DVDA makes in the Prepare function.

    As an Example… Suppose in DVDA I just Prepared my Single Movie project to a Folder called Princess-1. I click once on that folder and then once on the Add button.

    In the Nero Express window I can see a few files appear at the top of the screen… Files with strange names like… VIDEO_TS.BUP and VTS_01_O.IFO and VIDEO_TS.VOB. Depending on the complexity of the DVD there may be just a few or a lot of files in there. You don’t need to see them all; just to know that they are there.

    These are the files that NERO or your burning program will use to make your DVD.

    A side note here… if you double click on a folder (your Princess-1 folder) with DVD files in it… there should be two more folders in there… an Audio folder and a Video folder… there won’t be anything in the Audio folder, don’t worry.

    Next to the ADD button on the Select Files and Folders window is a Finished button. Click that once.

    That window disappears and leaves you with the DVD-Video files window.

    You don’t need to add anything else here… just click NEXT.

    The next window is Final Burn Settings. You should see your DVD recorder listed there… IBM MultiBurner or something.

    Give your DVD a name… PrincessTEST1.

    Choose a writing speed. Some people want to use slower burn speeds, that’s probably a good trouble shooting technique, until everything is running smooth.

    Another choice you may also want to make is Verify data on disc after burning.

    With all choices made… click Burn. Your program will probably ask for a disc… put a new one in your burner and close the door.

    Burning should begin in about 20 seconds or so.

    When your video is burned to DVD, NERO will check (Verify) that the data was written to your disc correctly. This is also a trouble shooting technique that you probably won’t have to do once everything is working.

    When the program is done… it will give you an opportunity to Save and Exit and will probably automatically eject your finished DVD-R.

    Now that all that is said…

    I still suspect that you should carefully check your Renders in VEGAS…

    MPEG’s for DVDA must be Rendered using the DVD Architect presets.

    Audio must be rendered at 48000 Hz ac3.

    As a test… just drop a single AVI clip onto the Project Overview window and let DVDA do the compression for your Single Movie.

    Then do a Prepare.

    Then Burn using your burn program… (NERO). If you are not using NERO, let us know what you are using.

    If you don’t have a seperate Burn program, just Prepare and Burn it in DVDA and let us know how it works.

    Good Luck…

    Steve

    Sony VX-1000 and others, P4 3gHz,
    3000 Gigabytes Online(Not Enough), AMD64 laptop, Vegas+DVD-Architect, ReelDVD, DVFILM, Lightwave, Photoshop, Independent Production Since 1985

  • Allen Zagel

    September 3, 2005 at 10:56 am

    All the posts above assume you have a authoring or burning problem. Why do we look at your computer for a minute? If they play fine on DVD set-top players then there should be nothing wrong with your disk.

    About your computer DVD player. Can you play other DVD’s on your computer? Commercial ones and ones you burned? How do you watch DVD’s on your computer? What software?

    I use Cyberlink DVD here but there’s others.

    Allen

    My web site features;
    China, China Railways and music.
    https://www.azagel.com

    Video site;
    https://www.asxvideo.com
    NEW! Shanghai MagLev DVD.

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