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  • Burning longer DVD

    Posted by Mark Nacovitch on May 25, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    I have a timeline thats 2 hours 22 minutes. Am trying to burn it onto 1 SL dvd from DVD architect. It says there is not enough room. I understand there is something about changing the bitrate. I’m using MPEG-2 and AC-3 Pro templates. Any help would be appreciated.

    Jeff Pulera replied 12 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Noah Kadner

    May 27, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    What does the manual say about lowering the bitrate? It’s pretty much as simple as that…

    Noah

    Call Box Training.
    Featuring the Panasonic GH2 and Panasonic AC160/130.

  • Jeff Pulera

    May 28, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    Hi Mark,

    As Noah stated, gotta change the bitrate. I use Adobe, so can’t tell you where in Architect to do this, consult manual. I just encoded a 140-minute video last night and used 3.9, with Dolby audio at 192.

    There are many bitrate calculators online, just Google, or use 560/minutes=bitrate. I usually round down for safety margin/menu overhead, for example 560/142=3.94 so 3.9 ought to do it for you. If using motion menus, which take more space, then perhaps 3.8 setting.

    Thanks

    Jeff Pulera
    Safe Harbor Computers

  • Mark Nacovitch

    May 28, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Jeff, I ended up having to use a DL DVD. Does that change anything for calculating the bitrate since the disc holds more?
    Thank you,
    Mark

  • Jeff Pulera

    May 28, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    Hi Mark,

    Using a dual-layer DVD, you can of course increase the bitrate to utilize the extra space available. I checked a calculator and it says 7.4 for a “DVD-9” disc with 142 minutes of video.

    CBR 7.0 will look great and will leave extra room for menus

    Thanks

    Jeff Pulera
    Safe Harbor Computers

  • Rob Neidig

    May 29, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    However your DL disc may not play in some players. Some players just do not like the dual layer discs. Good luck!

    Rob Neidig
    R&R Media Productions
    Eugene, Oregon

  • Jeff Pulera

    June 4, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    Thought I would add that I happened to complete a program the same length as yours over the weekend, 2 hours 21 minutes. I encoded at 3.9 (2-Pass VBR) using the “HD2SD” method (Google it) and it looks fantastic! Burned to a single-layer 4.7GB disc. Started with 1080i source, encoded as MPEG-2 DVD progressive 16:9.

    Thanks

    Jeff Pulera
    Safe Harbor Computers

  • Mark Nacovitch

    June 4, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    Jeff, I recorded in DV. 720×480. Would that matter?
    Thanks, Mark

  • Jeff Pulera

    June 4, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    It’s actually better to start with DV footage, then you are not downconverting. Then no need for HD2SD, just use good encoder with 2-pass VBR. Encoder results do vary and also depends on content. Lots of motion, detail? Noisy/grainy? Many factors affect encoding, but depending on video footage it IS possible to go beyond two hours and still have a decent looking DVD. I do it often, never a complaint from viewers.

    Thanks

    Jeff Pulera
    Safe Harbor Computers

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