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  • Building a new computer…

     Douglas Bowker updated 1 week, 4 days ago 4 Members · 4 Posts
  • Jeff Schroeder

    June 7, 2021 at 11:48 am

    Hey guys,

    I am building a new computer. I need some input.

    I currently have dual Xeons with 32GB of DDR4 RAM, 2x SAS drives, 2x M.2 drives and a GTX 1080.

    I’m thinking about 64GB RAM.

    Should I stay with Xeons, or look at an i9?

    What are your thoughts on storage and video?

    This one is 6 years old and its time to replace it.

    I am limited to about $6500 USD.

    Any suggestions you have are appreciated, thanks.

    Jeff

  • Richard Swain

    June 7, 2021 at 2:54 pm

    Hi Jeff,

    I have built many computers, however about 2 years ago I decided to purchase a new system. I went with a dual Xeon system with 48 GB Ram, Multiple SSD drives (C: and D:). The performance was not what I expected – Vegas doesn’t seem to take advantage of the dual CPUs. The manufacture shall remain nameless (household name with a tilted first letter). Anyway about 4 months ago I decided that I had had enough and started looking. A friend has a Boxx computer, so I went there. I purchased their Apex 3 system. It is an I9, 32 GB RAM ( I added an additional 32 GB), 500 GB M.2 C: (boot) drive, 2 TB Hard disk, NVidia RTX 4000 video card. I have added an additional M.2 drive (very easy to do). All this ended up be within your budget. The system boots quite fast, and can (with Vegas 18) can render 4K video at full frame rate. I transfer film to video for customers. The 8mm film is rather grainy. I use a filter from Neat Video to reduce the grain. It is a CPU hog. With my old system (dual Xeons) I was only able to get real-time rendering with the Video Preview set to Draft/Half. With my new system I set the Video Preview to Good/Half. Big difference in the quality of the preview video. The only downside to Boxx is the lead time – I had to wait about 10 days from when I placed the order. I really like the new system. I run multiple video applications (Vegas and Photopia) along with Word and Excel all at the same time with no problems (other than the grain video filter issue).

  • Francois Pénzes

    June 7, 2021 at 8:56 pm

    Hi Jeff and Richard

    I have tried a couple of times to find out from Magix what it would take hardware wise in order to be able to get the optimum performance out of Vegas. What manufacturer parts or combo works best. Better yet, forget naming specific manufacturers, let us know what are the best mobo specs, RAM, CPU, etc… I’m sure they’ve tested the living daylights out of it hardware wise. A lot of us make a living using Vegas and would be be more than happy to know so as to better our productivity and not having to guess when it’s time to upgrade our hardware. At what point is it overkill and you’re only spending good money for nothing. Alas, it seems it would be easier to get the nuclear launch codes from Russia AND the U.S.A. than a proper answer from Magix. I guess they don’t want to ruffle any feathers with the various hardware makers. Lets hope some day they have a change of heart…

    Cheers !

  • Douglas Bowker

    June 11, 2021 at 1:40 pm

    I’ve been a Xeon believer for around 15 years but last December I replaced my motherboard, RAM and processor with an AMD and all I can say is your mind will be forever blown by their latest generation of chips. I got 24 core (48 virtual, yes 48!) chip and it’s by FAR the largest leap in performance I can recall. Plus I got the MSI Creator motherboard which actually is designed around high-end performance for animation and video editing.

    Bottom Line: Intel has been deliberately dribbling out their chips (always at a premium too) when the OBVIOUS truth is that they’ve been able to build super high core count CPUs all along. Why obvious? Just look over at Nvidia! They’ve had chips with insane core counts for years now! Yeah, I know partly it’s the specificity of the graphics instruction set, but even that can’t really be the main reason. If it was then you wouldn’t have people running crypto currency machines filled with Nvidia cards doing the work. No, it’s that Intel held back because it could. No more! Sure, I’d consider going back my next custom build if they become “actually” competitive again, but only then. Right now my MSI Threadripper is killing it, and it even runs quiet!

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