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BrickSculpting and Classical Conditioning.
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[Richard Herd] “Simon concedes the point. His sculpting is tailored to this radio edit deliverable.”
I have no idea what you think you mean by this but it doesn’t sound even remotely like anything I have said.
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[Shawn Miller] “I really didn’t. BTW, its Kung-Fu or Gung-Fu… not Kong-Fu… ☺”
The spelling is irrelevant. I don’t need to know anything about martial arts nor did Jim Brown when they hosted the first UFC. I am saying many martial artists feel their form of martial arts is the best and that there technique is the best. We know this because they were all interviewed at the first UFC. Obviously BJJ proved to be effective. Over time the fighters mixed up elements of boxing, karate, judo wrestling etc.
Many editors think their non linear editor of choice is the best and that their technique is the best.
The Ultimate Editing Championship might shed some light on what methods really work the best. I think like the UFC it will be a combination of different techniques and if truth be told some NLE might have a slight edge over other NLE for certain tasks.
What I stated is 100% correct. Don’t be upset if I don’t now anything about karate or judo because I don’t have to nor did Jim Brown. We know from the first and second UFC that some techniques were not effective while others were. The sport has defiantly change since UFC 1 and 2.
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[andy patterson] “The Ultimate Editing Championship might shed some light on what methods really work the best.”
This might shed some light also Andy.
Come on, you all were thinking it. It was just a matter of who would post it first : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOW5hcbnxzk
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[Richard Herd] “I’m also a wrestling folk style wresting referee. For me, UFC is a joke of a “style.” It needs some kind of standing 8 count so the referee can control the action. Right now it’s either let someone get pounded or call the fight preemptively.”
I liked the old school UFC with no time restrictions. You either won by knockout or tap out. I like the fact that 8 men entered the octagon but only one man leaves as The Ultimate Fighter.
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Not bad but I have always liked this : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmfudW7rbG0
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[andy patterson] “The spelling is irrelevant.”
Not when you say things like this [andy patterson] “You kind of messed up a tad bit there didn’t ya?”
[andy patterson] ” I don’t need to know anything about martial arts nor did Jim Brown when they hosted the first UFC.”
Jim Brown didn’t make a faulty analogy based on a subject he didn’t know anything about AFIAK.
[andy patterson] ” I am saying many martial artists feel their form of martial arts is the best and that there technique is the best. We know this because they were all interviewed at the first UFC.”
And, as I’ve said, this isn’t a common mindset among experienced martial artists, and it hasn’t been for a long time. You might have to have more exposure to the subject than television interviews to know that though.
[andy patterson] “The Ultimate Editing Championship might shed some light on what methods really work the best.”
For an editing contest… sure. I’m not sure what useful methods might be exposed for every day work though.
[andy patterson] “What I stated is 100% correct.”
I doubt that you could be convinced otherwise!
[andy patterson] “Don’t be upset if I don’t now anything about karate or judo because I don’t have to nor did Jim Brown. We know from the first and second UFC that some techniques were not effective while others were. The sport has defiantly change since UFC 1 and 2.”
LOL – that first part is just classic! To your point though, to be effective in UFC style fights, you have to use the methods and techniques that are effective in those fights. Outside of those fights, the same approach isn’t nearly as effective. Sports martial arts is to real fighting as reality TV is to real life… one is real, the other is realistic. That’s my conclusion after having done all four. ☺
Shawn
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“So far I’ve only mentioned what is happening with what is sometimes called the “radio edit”.”
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[Shawn Miller] “[andy patterson] “The spelling is irrelevant.”
Not when you say things like this [andy patterson] “You kind of messed up a tad bit there didn’t ya?””
What good does using a straw-man do? I didn’t fault you for your spelling.
[Shawn Miller] “[andy patterson] ” I don’t need to know anything about martial arts nor did Jim Brown when they hosted the first UFC.”
Jim Brown didn’t make a faulty analogy based on a subject he didn’t know anything about AFIAK.”
Where is the faulty analogy? As stated I am not saying Avid is like boxing or FCPX is like jodu. There are martial artists that think their technique and fighting style are the best. There are editors that insist their NLE and technique are the best. You may have read more into it than what was there. I think maybe you really like martial arts and are taking things way to serious. As stated Jim Brown could easily see when a fighting style did not work. It would not matter if he spelled Judo correctly or not.
[Shawn Miller] “[andy patterson] ” I am saying many martial artists feel their form of martial arts is the best and that there technique is the best. We know this because they were all interviewed at the first UFC.”
And, as I’ve said, this isn’t a common mindset among experienced martial artists, and it hasn’t been for a long time. You might have to have more exposure to the subject than television interviews to know that though.”
Did I ever say all martial artist feels that way today? No I did not. In fact I have stated just the opposite. I have stated the UFC fighters today see the merits of Judo, Boxing karate etc. Prior to the first UFC many martial artist felt thier fighting style was the best and that their technique was the best. The UFC is what made people realize boxing, judo and karate all had merit. Very few people watching the first UFC had heard of BJJ. After the first UFC people like myself and Jim Brown became aware of what BJJ had to offer. Grappling became very popular and very respected. That is the only point I have made thus far and that point is correct.
You claim I need to have more exposure to the subject than television interviews? Wrong! You need to actually comprehend what I have written and respond accordingly. The UFC changed the way we view different fighting styles. The Ultimate Editing Championship might change how we use different editing techniques.
[Shawn Miller] “[andy patterson] “The Ultimate Editing Championship might shed some light on what methods really work the best.”
For an editing contest… sure. I’m not sure what useful methods might be exposed for every day work though.”
Every time someone posts a link to Thomas Groove Carter editing people are in awe. I am not in awe because I know it is a dog and pony show he has done time and time again. I am not saying anyone will change the way they edit but they may see some feature in another NLE that could be useful or at the very least realize all the NLE will work. Would one NLE be better for certain projects than another? Probably.
[Shawn Miller] “[andy patterson] “What I stated is 100% correct.”
I doubt that you could be convinced otherwise!”
What is incorrect about the UFC showing what fighting techniques work and what ones do not work? Did the UFC not force the fighters to appreciate and adopt other forms of fighting?
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Well, alright then. You win, Andy. ☺
Shawn
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[Richard Herd] “this radio edit deliverable”
This is the bizarre expression I was taking objection to. Would you care to explain what if anything you mean by it?
Notice also that I used “radio edit” in quotation marks as it’s not an expression I normally use, but which is however widely recognised.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
hawaiki
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