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Breakthrough!!!
Well I think I may have found the issue! Its seems that it may be “plug-ins” or “Filter” related issues.
I seemed to have crazy issues with MAgic Bullet and the “LOOKS” filter. It would work, then not work then show up then not and on and on. I finally removed it (Shame too because it kicks butt!) and after doing so did some tests and no crashes or weird disc error. I then pin pointed it down to the next few filters that I am testing as we speak. I had four filters on my shots that I was trying to use for a specific look. I think that FX Factory may also be a trouble third party filter. Im doing a test now with Magic Bullets “Vignette” filter and will have the results, but so far so good. FINGERS CROSSED!!Thomas
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q[Thomas Newman] “Well I think I may have found the issue”
What issue? I have no clue what you’re talking about. Generally when people have a solution to an issue they post it in the same thread as the original discussion.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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And a bit of information about your system and the kind of footage wouldn’t be bad to figure out what can be wrong.
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Sorry I thought it was including all the previous information I had posted or that people could click on my name and see my past posts. In any case I had a horrible glitch in my new Power MAC Pro- Quad core with 2.8 GHz Xeon. Every time I tried to do a render I would get a “out of disc space ERROR” even though I have 3 Terabits. When ever I tried to export anything it would crash my FCP 5.1.4 after that error.
I cleared the preference files from FCP and nothing
I re installed my OSX leopard latest version and nothing
I ended up getting rid of all the filters I had placed on my shots in the timeline and it worked! So this lead me to believe that it was one of the filters or the combination of them. I had about four filters on each clip. Once I had tried that test and was successful decided to reinstall my FCP to be on the safe side and now everything WORKS!!The filters to be aware of that may have caused the issues are:
Magic Bullet – LOOKS builder
Nattres: FX FactoryOutside of that Im not sure if there was anything else that could have caused this.
Good luck to all the others that had the same problem.
Thomas
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That helps.
Did you reinstall the filters? You went from power pc to intel, that might require an update to all of your filters. Did you do a migration or did you start from scratch?
Jeremy
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Yeah I tried everything under the sun with those filters. It seems that “Looks” either works sometimes or not at all. I did some research on other sites and forums and found the same issues by others. I did complete re installs on them and still nothing. I managed to get the FX factory one to work and be stable but have not tried an export yet to see if it would cause the same errors yet. More testing under way.
Thomas
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If you have just installed your System, QT, FC, etc, the next step should be to optimize your System. Repair permissions and re-build your directories because I bet you they are a big mess.
To go to FCS2 a guess that would help you too to run those plugins in FC.
I work with a 2.4 MBP with the same plugins that you are using and, so far, the only problem I have is when trying to apply some of those effects to 1080 footage. FC tells me that I need more GPU. Mine has only 256MB. I guess your have 512MB, so you shouldn’t have any problem
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Well I spent three solid days around the clock with minimal 2 hours of a sleep just to try and find why I was getting this stupid “out of disc space” error on my new MAC Quad 2.8 GHz intel with 4 gigs of RAM. Below is the issues I had and what I did to finally fix it.
PROBLEM 1:
When trying to render in FCP 5.1.4 I would get an “Out of disc space ” Error after about 15 seconds or so even though I have tree terabytes of space.PROBLEM 2: When trying to export to quicktime as an MOV file I would get the same error as above, then FCP would crash.
I did a lot of research on as many forums as I could as well as the apple site and found a few possible reasons that this could happen. I also knew that I had installed some new filters that were problematic to begin with. Those filters were “Magic Bullet Looks” and” FX factory”. Sometimes I could get access to the LOOKS viewer through FC and sometimes I could not. I found out that other people had this issue due to the new piece of crap intel chip that we are stuck with now in our MAC pros. I dont care how fast they make the computers, if they make PC’s crash all the time then the MAC is at risk also (What the hell was Steve Jobs thinking?) Anyway before I go onto a why I hate PC’s rant I will explain the solution.
SOLUTION to problems 1 and 2:
It seems that some people reported that the new OS system has an issue with placing a ( / ) in your clip titles as well. I never had this problem before but I guess with the new systems it is an issue. So when you log and capture and are naming your clips as I did with ALL 765 shots that I had captured with an average of 4 ( / ) inside each title, then you should do what I did. Spend about 8 hours going through your clips one by one and removing those nasty little buggers and replacing them with a ( – ) instead. Do this on the original source clips and not in FCP because it makes no difference what you call your shots there. Its the source files that matter. Yes this totally sucks because it will move all your clips in your FC project to off line, then you have to go through therm one at a time AGAIN inside FCP just to reconnect them because now the names have changed and FC needs to know where they are.
For example:
ThenewMACIntelSUCKS/CU/Take/3
WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED TO
ThenewMACIntelSUCKS-CU-Take-3
Now do that for all your clips in the folder where they are stored. Yes its loads of fun, make sure you have a bucket of ice handy and wrist braces because your hands will feel like they were smashed with a sledge hammer by the time you’re done.
After doing all that, I then deleted the Preference files for FCP. I went to the apple site and downloaded a free AP called “Preference manager”. Its a nifty easy one click program that SAVES YOUR PREFS OR DELETS THEM FOR YOU.
I also got rid of the problematic filters in my FCP application support/ Plug ins folder and made sure there was no traces of them in the Applications folder either.
The best part of it all is this. I read somewhere that If you have a drive allocated to TIME MACHINE that it could cause issues with FCP. Well it so happens that the Western Digital external drive that I am using for storing all my MOV clips is also the TIME MACHINE drive which I had set to on. Well I turned this off and only after doing so did my results improve 100 %!!
So did I need to do all that other crap or was it a simple turn off the Time machine on the active drive issue? I dont know. Im trying to edit my feature film “Bong Of The Dead” and I bought this new MAC Pro in order to give my feature film the best it could have, and instead I have had nothing but headaches since I did so. In the end though I did all of the above just to be on the safe side and it SEEMS I can now edit like the wind and export with NO ISSUES! I think I won for today.
If you are having those same issues I suggest starting with the simplest and that is either switch TIME MACHINE off or make another disk your time machine disc. Then if that does not work go ahead and do all the other stuff and see what happens. DON T FORGET TO REPAIR DISC PERMISSIONS after you do all that deleting files and crap.
Best of luck people!
PS
Check out my movie site I would love some feed back: http://www.bongofthedead.com
Thomas
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[Thomas Newman] “It seems that some people reported that the new OS system has an issue with placing a ( / ) in your clip titles”
Backslashes should NEVER be put into any computer file name. Mac, Windows, Linux, etc… That character is usually used for computer commands and it’s considered an “illegal character” for most applications. Also, if you ever plan to color grade using Color, there are many characters such as the backslash and asterick that cannot be in a file name or Color will reject them.
[Thomas Newman] “The best part of it all is this. I read somewhere that If you have a drive allocated to TIME MACHINE that it could cause issues with FCP.”
That’s one that we’re not seeing here. Time Machine running on all three of our edit systems. Two of them have small 250GB USB Western Digital drives and my Octo Core has an internal 1TB Western Digital drive.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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Hi Thomas,
If you ever have any problems with FxFactory, please be sure to contact support@noiseindustries.com, we will do our best to help.
Seeing that you are running FCP 5.1.4 you must also be running an old version of FxFactory, we have switched to only supporting FCS2 a while ago.
Happy you have figured out how to solve your problem.
Regards,
Niclas
https://www.noiseindustries.com
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Automator would have made short work of changing / to -. I wouldn’t even recommend – I would think that _ would be much better.
Jeremy
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