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  • Graeme Nattress

    May 24, 2005 at 7:17 pm

    24p or 24p advanced?? 24p has much less temporal resolution than 60i or 50i, but it can be as smooth and good looking as a Hollywood movie.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

  • Don Greening

    May 24, 2005 at 7:23 pm

    Okay thanks, Chris. Doesn’t sound too promising, does it?

    – Don

  • Chris Poisson

    May 25, 2005 at 12:14 am

    Graeme,

    And just how do you make 24p smooth?

  • Graeme Nattress

    May 25, 2005 at 1:36 am

    It’s all about limiting fast action and keeping camera moves slow. If you shoot 24p exactly how you’d shoot 24fps film, the end smoothness of the video will be the same.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

  • Chris Poisson

    May 25, 2005 at 2:41 pm

    Graeme,

    In my career I have shot 35mm and 16mm at 24 fps a jillion times. I never, ever got the kind of objectional stutter like I get on my Panny.

  • Graeme Nattress

    May 25, 2005 at 2:55 pm

    Chris, which mode are you shooting in? 24p or 24pA? Assuming the shutter speed is set to the correct value for 24p (that’s 1/48th is it?) there’s absolutely no reason why you should get any objectionable stuttering. 24p does exactly that, just 24 frames per second with a standard 3:2 pulldown to get to NTSC rate, just like any movie is transferred to video. 24pA does a different pulldown cadence that’s designed not for smooth viewing, but for removal so you can edit in a 23.98fps timeline. If you’ve shot 24pA I can well believe it stutters badly. Chris, you know your stuff, so I hope I’m not coming across badly here, but I’m at a loss to see why it’s stuttering. There’s always the possibility of field ordering issues, but that should not be an issue with a DV workflow. Any ideas?? Any chance of sending me some footage to look at?

    Thanks,

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

  • Chris Poisson

    May 25, 2005 at 4:18 pm

    Hey Graeme,

    No sweat, I will do some more tests and send you some if it makes sense after I see what’s what.

    Thanks for the info.

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