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  • Break Apart Clip Items

    Posted by Rich Hawksworth on March 1, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    I’m having problems with compound clips. Specifically, there are some instances in which I cannot “Break Apart Clip Items” – the menu selection is grayed-out. I can still open the clip in the timeline editor, but I need to edit to the audio track.

    This doesn’t happen with all compound clips–just often enough to make it aggravating–and I don’t remember it happening at all prior to updating to 10.0.3.

    Also, if I delete the compound clip and build it again, then it works. A bug? Any ideas?

    Paul Aspuria replied 14 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 1, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    What’s in it?

    Are they event or project created?

    When you rebuild, what did you do differently?

  • Rich Hawksworth

    March 1, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    All simple, project-based compound clips created on the timeline. For example, I create a title, add a transition at the head and then create a compound clip. Later, when I need to adjust the title, I can’t break it apart. There doesn’t seem to be a rhyme or reason to when this happens. Some of the quirks I’ve encountered with FCPX will disappear with a reboot – not this one, though.

    This has been a typical part of my workflow since I’ve been using FCPX. I don’t think I’m doing anything differently than I was prior to 10.0.3.

  • Paul Aspuria

    March 1, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Check inside that compound clip and see if there are clips that are out of the range of in and out points. Basically in the greyed out area. If there is then you need to remove the unused portions then the you can break apart. That’s the catch you can’t break apart if the contain is more the area on the timeline. Hope this helps.

    Happy cutting

  • Rich Hawksworth

    March 1, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    OK. Now this is interesting. You’re right. The compound clips that cannot be broken apart have a component that extends 1 frame beyond the gray area. With compound clips that break apart OK, all components are confined to the gray area. However, when I try to trim the “offending” clip to bring it within bounds, the gray area constricts as well. So, regardless of what I do, we’re still 1 frame too long.

    Two questions:

    First, how the heck did these clips get out of whack to begin with? From my perspective, when I create a compound clip, all components of it are, by definition, within the bounds of the compound clip, right? At that point, I cannot adjust individual components without expanding the clip.

    Second, any thoughts on how to remedy these clips without rebuilding them?

  • Paul Aspuria

    March 1, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    You may have slipped the compound clip by accident. Make sure all sequence inside the compound clip is all the way to the left. This should work.

    Forgot one more thing you’ll need to slip the compound clip to the very head/beginning until it turns red to signal you’ve gone as far as you can.

    Hope this help.

  • Rich Hawksworth

    March 2, 2012 at 2:56 am

    Unfortunately, that doesn’t work. I’ve tried slipping it to it’s limit towards heads and tails. When I open the compound clip in the timeline editor, it’s all the way to the left. No matter what I do to the last clip, the gray area remains 1 frame longer than sequence.

  • Rich Hawksworth

    March 2, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    In one instance, it seems like if a compound clip is retimed, it cannot be broken apart – even if the timing is set back to 100%. Still trying to figure out the others. But, by that logic, once a compound clip is “locked” perhaps it cannot be “unlocked.”

  • Paul Aspuria

    March 2, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    I guess you could just copy / paste contain of the compound clip to adjust then recompound it to keep it clean on the timeline. Not ideal but if you need to get things done. Compound clips still a mysterious beast. Awesome at times and puzzling others. Still better then working with nested clips in fcp7. Horrible.

    Happy Cutting

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