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Boy will this be a debate starter…
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Well, Stu is explaining a concept. I was trying to relate it to a known, specific reality with tangible operations. Different things.
And rember when I use metaphors, I’ve learned that I will have to spend hours defending them. (Yes, likely because they are lame.) but it’s still a hassle – : )
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[Walter Soyka] “Here’s a question for you: how many doors are there in FCPX’s hallway?”
This many:
That’s why some people hate it, no matter what the doors seem horrifically unreachable, but for those that stick it out the doors all of a sudden rush to the forefront.
And then you have to step in to the light, Carol Anne.
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[Bill Davis] “And rember when I use metaphors, I’ve learned that I will have to spend hours defending them. (Yes, likely because they are lame.) but it’s still a hassle – : )”
Metaphors are a lot like cars, Bill… 😉
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[Andrew Kimery] ”
Metaphors are a lot like cars, Bill… ;)”Good one.
(By the way, am I remembering correctly that about a month ago you said you hike in the S.M mountains from time to time. I live in Topanga and hike all the time. Let me know if you like to hike sometime and I can get my contact info to you.)
Dave
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[Herb Sevush] “From a user’s standpoint I long for the software that has all the doors I need and not a single one more. In that sense Adobe is closest – it let’s you add complexity by linking to other programs at your discretion.”
I agree. That’s what I like about X as well. Add all the doors you need through the plug-in world, nothing more. What I would like to see in X is a “door”/plugin manager, so you can turn on and off the “doors” you need based on the project. Like the old Event Manager plugin.
Adobe is close, but it’s interfaces are so horrid (doing some basic AE work now and the software is really great, but the interface is just awful…worse than Premiere.) I choose to stay away from that “hallway” no matter how many doors I might like to use
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Working with curious beginners I have found that. X does send you down the rabbit hole more often than ideal. Or to use the OP – they get trapped behind one if those side doors in a room unfamiliar.
X has about the same number of windows/spaces as any other full featured NLE. Some are more developed some are less.
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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[Craig Alan] “Working with curious beginners I have found that. X does send you down the rabbit hole more often than ideal. Or to use the OP – they get trapped behind one if those side doors in a room unfamiliar.”
I haven’t noticed beginners going down any rabbit holes unless I point them out and assign them to actually go in those hallway doors (or if they purposefully choose to explore on their own); one of the strengths of FCPX in my experience. What rabbit holes have you seen open up?
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[James Culbertson] “one of the strengths of FCPX in my experience. What rabbit holes have you seen open up?”
I’ll jump in and note that I frequently see beginners mistakenly open a clip in a timeline, thinking they are in the project, and merrily – and destructively – editing away.
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For example or any of the features in the clip menu. Or having the wrong window active and wondering why nothing works. QWorE and a new clip is put on the timeline but the timeline is not now active? The windows could be a bit more obviously lit up/active. Bottom line is I don’t find FCP X really that different than FCP legacy in this regard. However, I can get beginners editing a rough cut faster than legacy. The whole magnetic and primary storyline UI is a lot easier to get started with. But many keyboard shortcuts will trigger all hell breaking loose if you are not experienced.
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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[Oliver Peters] “I’ll jump in and note that I frequently see beginners mistakenly open a clip in a timeline, thinking they are in the project, and merrily – and destructively – editing away.”
Interesting. That does not seem entirely logical since the only way you could select open in timeline is if you are already in a timeline (at least that was the logic that made me look up that function when I first encountered it). But I can see that particular contextual menu terminology being confusing for some.
Maybe it is because I work with high school students, but I have never seen that scenario arise.
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