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Oliver Peters
October 4, 2011 at 12:13 pmSoundbite, GET and Avid’s Phrasefind are all powered by Nexidia. They own the IP and control licensing costs, which is why Avid has to sell it as an option. It’s also the same engine behind Avid’s ScriptSync. I don’t know why Nexidia changed from AV3 to Boris, but I presume they felt they could get better sales through Boris’ channels.
The main difference between Soundbite/GET and Phrasefind is that the former works externally and Phrasefind works inside the Media Composer host. Both work off of matching phonetics in the waveform against a language library. This means matches have a high degree of accuracy, but it’s a fundamentally opposite process from actual speech transcription. So, Nexidia looks like magic, whereas Adobe’s tool comes across as clunky.
The difference in accuracy is because in Soundbite, GET and Phrasefind, Nexidia can interpolate the areas between recognized words and make matches. It can also deal with words that are misspelled but a phonetic match. Since the “guesses” return valid matches, the process appears near perfect. In the other direction – generating text from such matches – results are gibberish, because in the case of Adobe, it tries to make grammatical and phrase sense out of something that it often sees as nonsense. This gives you hilarious and completely useless results.
Oliver
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Timothy Auld
October 4, 2011 at 3:19 pmPretty sure Premiere will do this for you with speech analysis.
bigpine
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Timothy Auld
October 4, 2011 at 3:21 pmInteresting. I only used it once and it work well for me. Now you have me wanting to try it again to see if my positive experience was the exception rather than the rule.
bigpine
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David Roth weiss
October 4, 2011 at 4:34 pm[Oliver Peters] “in the case of Adobe, it tries to make grammatical and phrase sense out of something that it often sees as nonsense. This gives you hilarious and completely useless results.”
Yes, the results in Adobe Speech Search can be very funny indeed. Unfortunately, it’s not funny when you try to use the results in the traditional manner we most often need for documentaries and other interview driven projects.
If you work inside Premiere, Speech Search does work, as it allows you to find and key on those words that are interpreted correctly, and it will jump to those words instantly in the associated media file, very similar to the way GET does its thing. While that does fulfill a nice function, the traditional method of simply being able to follow along with a printed transcript would be much more useful, and it’s a real shame the technology isn’t accurate enough to make that functionality truly useful. Folks at Adobe suggested the accuracy would improve over time, but it it hasn’t changed much, if at all, over the last 2.5 years.
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Oliver Peters
October 5, 2011 at 12:20 am[David Roth Weiss] “Speech Search does work, as it allows you to find and key on those words that are interpreted correctly….. Folks at Adobe suggested the accuracy would improve over time, but it it hasn’t changed much, if at all, over the last 2.5 years.”
Correct. I once had this conversation with product management at Adobe. They admitted that they oversold the capabilities of the function and should have promoted it as a keyword search tool. That’s basically what came in with CS5.5. They also told me that over various years of researching the speech-to-text field, they were told by the experts that perfection was 5-10 years away. They told me they’ve been given that same future milestone over the course of 10+ years of research. It’s always 5-10 years away! 😉
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