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  • Bold Statement Warning!

    Posted by Craig Slattery on May 17, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    Iam cutting a 1/2hour doco for television. 12 day edit, 18 contributors, actuality, over 700 clips EVERYTHING shot 3 cameras, even the PTCs shot 3 cameras. C300, Canon 5D MKIII, DV25 (stylistic choice of the director) I created the multicam clips for the contributors and the timeline was 7.5 hours long. FCPX handles this with no trouble, amazing!!!! Even more amazing, the crew kindly provided a sync clap at the beginning of each interview, but Camera 1 and 2 buttoned on and off throughout. To make matters worse, because we haven’t shot on tape for years, the operator on the DV25 forgot to allow for tape role and missed the clap on every occasion, and course no timecode sync with the 5D. There is no script, it was a last minute commission so the SP told the director to “shoot as much as you can around the central idea and we will craft a story in the edit”. “Bold Statement warning” I could ONLY edit this programme in the time scheduled by using FCPX. To create the multicam clips alone, in FCP7 would take days. In FCPX I had all the footage in Multicams in less than 8 hours. I very much doubt you could achieve this in any other NLE.

    Paul Neumann replied 12 years, 11 months ago 15 Members · 28 Replies
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  • John Davidson

    May 17, 2013 at 11:48 pm

    Interesting. What’s the monthly rental cost for FCPX again?

    John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

  • Bill Davis

    May 18, 2013 at 12:03 am

    Come on Craig.

    We all know X is a toy.

    plus

    We all know that editors don’t need databases to organize stuff. Folders and bins are ideal. Functioning databases are WAY overkill.

    plus

    Multicam is over-rated. Cameras will always be rare and expensive devices and it’s totally unreasonable to expect them appear in larger numbers on the average shoot in the future.

    plus

    X is dumb and silly and incapable of professional work. All the “pro editors” with big important jobs who don’t use it say so. All of them.

    plus

    What’s with all this obsessive “metadata” this and “metadata” that stuff? It’s complicated and makes my head hurt. I wish tape was still viable. Tape I understood.

    plus

    Apple is evil and screwed everybody and made them reeeeally mad by dumping FCP-Legacy. What kind of stupid company changes thing so much that virtually everybody gets totally pissed off at them? Really. If you’ve got the program that everyone believes might be the gateway to the editing promised land – it’s really, really, REALLY stupid to change some fundamental part of how it works for your customers so that you really upset everybody. Just ask anyone.

    Plus X might “seem” wicked fast and deeply capable to losers. But what do they know. It’s never about how easily you can get your work done. Editing is an *art* dammit. And everyone knows that the artist must SUFFER in order to produce art. And that implies the more suffering you do, the BETTER your art is. It’s the VanGogh effect. Want to edit a video so sublimely well that people will remember you a century hence? Cover your face with a massive incredibly painfully permenent overalay of the face of Hitler. Then channel that pain and despair into creative juice and watch your billing rate soar into the stratosphere. I bet you get a meme. “My project was edited by “HITLER GUY” – on FCP-X” It’s so evil that you must pay to watch it. All the hipsters say so!

    (wow, actually I was going to keep ranting since it’s Friday and ranting is fun and I’m done with work – but a little voice in my head said that that last paragraph might actually be getting a bit out of hand.. Related to nothing, Amy’s Baking Company is in the closest shopping center to our house – so maybe there’s something in the air? I’m going to spend the weekend meditating and seeking inner peace.)

    Have a great weekend all!

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  • Shane Ross

    May 18, 2013 at 12:55 am

    Bill. We’ve given up bashing FCX. We know it is very capable now. Besides, we have Adobe to bash now. FCX? Who cares. I WANT TO OWN MY SOFTWARE, NOT RENT IT!

    🙂

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Andrew Kimery

    May 18, 2013 at 2:28 am

    Craig,

    It does sound like that given the array of formats and the deadline that FCPX’s multicam saved the day.

    Bill,

    Two questions. 1. How long have you been waiting to unleash that? 2. How did you manage to only rant about changes that most people agree to liking in X? 😉

    Shane,

    I agree. It’s all about beating the red headed step child and Adobe is currently said child. lol

  • Chris Harlan

    May 18, 2013 at 3:18 am

    [John Davidson] “Interesting. What’s the monthly rental cost for FCPX again?

    You are just having too good a time!

  • Chris Harlan

    May 18, 2013 at 3:20 am

    [Bill Davis] “Come on Craig.

    We all know X is a toy.

    Come on Bill. You’ve got to stop pretending that people are still making this argument.

  • Chris Harlan

    May 18, 2013 at 3:24 am

    [craig slattery] ” I very much doubt you could achieve this in any other NLE.”

    This definitely sounds like this is X’s forte.

  • Tony Brittan

    May 18, 2013 at 5:06 am

    There ya go!

    Tony Brittan
    Island Shore Productions
    Kill Devil Hills, NC

  • Dan Stewart

    May 18, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I’ll take another look at 10.1, now that my ‘look into premiere’ slots have opened..

    BTW Craig saw the long version of your Danny Boyle film – great job.

  • Steve Connor

    May 18, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Bill, stand down – the battle’s over, a second front’s opened up

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

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