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Blue Ray support?
Posted by Mitch Ives on January 18, 2008 at 4:00 pmApple was the first to put DVD burners in towers and now they are the last one without some type of HD DVD burner (blue ray or HD DVD). I know that Steve believes we should all be focusing on digital downloads, but is that any reason not to have the ability to burn to optical media as well?
I’d like to hear the thoughts of other post-production professionals. If there is a concensus, then maybe it’s time to start getting vocal. I realize that we can buy Premiere Pro and Encore and get this done, but why shouldn’t we be able to do it with FCP Studio?
I like forward to your thoughts…
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Walter Biscardi
January 18, 2008 at 4:10 pm[Mitch Ives] “I realize that we can buy Premiere Pro and Encore and get this done, but why shouldn’t we be able to do it with FCP Studio?”
Really not much to say about this until April. I would expect DVD Studio Pro to support Blu-Ray by then. If it doesn’t after the NAB Announcement, THEN I would get vocal about it.
But honestly, I would be shocked if Apple were to do any sort of update to DVD Studio Pro adding Blu-Ray support before NAB. They could certainly do it, but it would be surprising.
In the meantime, Encore, Toast and Blu-Ray burning works extremely well here. The way I look at it, when DVD Studio Pro does support Blu-Ray, we’ve already got the workflow figured out. It’s actually a very seamless process between Studio and Encore so it’s no big deal. The first job paid for the Burner and Encore and now we’ve done 4 jobs going on 6.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Russell Lasson
January 18, 2008 at 5:24 pmAnother thing to consider is how the Blu-ray specs are changing. Features were just added that essentially make all existing Blu-ray players but the PS3 out of date. I think Apple is planning for the Blu-ray 2.0 spec. They’ve had plenty of time to work on it with DVDSP receiving such a small update since NAB 2006.
-Russ
Russell Lasson
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Paul Escandon
January 18, 2008 at 5:43 pmHey Walter – ever thought of doing a tutorial on the steps you take to encode and burn a blu-ray disc with acceptable quality from beginning to end? It seems like you went through a lot of trial by fire’s and still to this date I think you’re the only person I’ve read on this forum that’s actually producing blu-ray discs with any sort of regularity. I think it would be a big hit especially since the choice of adopting blu-ray is becoming much easier now with all the recent things happening int he format wars.
Just wondering.
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Walter Biscardi
January 18, 2008 at 7:11 pm[Russell Lasson] “Another thing to consider is how the Blu-ray specs are changing. Features were just added that essentially make all existing Blu-ray players but the PS3 out of date.”
Not really. All BluRay players are updated with software updates. We’ve already had two updates for our Sony player that has added more features like BD-R support and more interactive menu support.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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Walter Biscardi
January 18, 2008 at 7:15 pm[Paul Escandon] “It seems like you went through a lot of trial by fire’s and still to this date I think you’re the only person I’ve read on this forum that’s actually producing blu-ray discs with any sort of regularity.”
No, I honestly have not considered it because our knowledge is one of the things that our clients pay us for. BluRay is still quite novel and not a lot of people are using it yet. We have developed a very good workflow that yields pristine HD quality on the disc at a very reasonable rate for our clients.
At this time, that’s something we’re keeping in-house. 🙂
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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Russell Lasson
January 18, 2008 at 7:22 pmI must have misread some of the articles the came out this past week. Will your players support playing dual stream video? Do they have internet connections to allow access to online content and downloads? (Those were some of the features that are either out or coming out in the future.)
Now I’m definitely no pro for the new HD formats. I just pick up a PS3 a couple of nights ago to play back HD content. Now I’m just trying to figure out what’s the best file format for it. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
-Russ
Russell Lasson
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Rennie Klymyk
January 18, 2008 at 9:12 pmI’m still running a G5 so Encore is not an option as far as the system requirements state. Hence I find myself looking to the other side.. According to the flyer I got today I can get a dell DC pentium with 20″ LCD for $679.00 with vista. All I’d need to buy is Ulead DVD movie factory Plus for $79.00. It doesn’t support H.264 or aiff but it does support mov. qt.
For a dedicated blu-ray solution it looks interesting for the interm.
Check the flash demo (didn’t time it but it’s about 15′ long it seems)https://www.ulead.com/dmf/tour.htm
“everything is broken” ……1st. coined by Esther Philips I believe.
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Walter Biscardi
January 18, 2008 at 9:26 pm[Rennie Klymyk] “According to the flyer I got today I can get a dell DC pentium with 20″ LCD for $679.00 with vista. All I’d need to buy is Ulead DVD movie factory Plus for $79.00. It doesn’t support H.264 or aiff but it does support mov. qt.
For a dedicated blu-ray solution it looks interesting for the interm.”Why would you invest in a PC computer “for the interim?” If you’re serious about BluRay, then purchase an Intel Mac with Windows XP, Ulead DVD Movie Factory and a BluRay Burner. Then when DVDSP does support BluRay you just switch over.
I really don’t see wasting over $800 towards an “interim” solution when you’ll most likely need new hardware to get the BluRay option anyway. So if you’re invested in Mac already, invest in a new Mac and add Windows to it. That’s what we did with our new iMac. It has XP installed to support our BluRay / DVD Replication.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR
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Rennie Klymyk
January 18, 2008 at 9:45 pmI’d also have to upgrade my kona2 and firmtek storage host card from the pci-x architecture. All this is working well for me right now but I’m getting anxious about blu-ray.
“everything is broken” ……1st. coined by Esther Philips I believe.
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