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  • Blend clips like Kylie

    Posted by Jon Wilkins on July 9, 2006 at 6:22 pm

    Does anyone know how to blend clips convincingly with Premiere Pro or After Effects like Michel Gondry’s video Come into my World for Kylie Minogue where she appears several times, dancing with herself in the street as the camera rotates around the same scene several times.

    Obviously, synching tracking shots would be a bit difficult without the proper kit but I’m just looking to use a locked off camera with several different events taking place in the same shot using the same people several times.

    I’ve tried the various blend modes in Premiere Pro and After Effects but they other look like ghosts or are too dark or create unwanted luminosity and colour changes.

    I’m guessing I may need to resort to green screen keyed footage but want to avoid that if possible.

    Cheers,

    Jon

    Jon Wilkins replied 19 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Machicolation

    July 9, 2006 at 10:43 pm

    yup. keying is the way. if your existing footage is on a white background you may be able to get away with reusing it.

    Premiere Pro won’t do, go to AfterFX.

    1. There are various effects that will key out the background
    2. and various effects to clean the matte
    3. and various effects to take out the matte spillover that you’ll get.

    the help file explains them all

  • Aanarav Sareen

    July 10, 2006 at 5:49 am

    There are several effects in Premiere Pro that can help you out. Take a look at the Channel category and play around. However, if you post a sample clip, we can guide you more specifically.

    Aanarav Sareen
    premiere@asvideoproductions.com

  • Brett Howe

    July 10, 2006 at 6:23 am

    I think u need to look to a compositing package, rather than an editing program for this job. After effects might do, but for this job I would use a difference key in combustion.

    First shoot a clean base, no talent. THen shoot your people on location.

    Difference key will refer to your clean base, and key the “Difference”….very cool,

  • Jon Wilkins

    July 10, 2006 at 7:36 pm

    Thanks guys – I’ll have a further play and post again if I find something that works well.

    Cheers!

  • Mike Cohen

    July 12, 2006 at 1:41 pm

    If you can keep the person within different areas of the screen, for example have the talent dance in each of 4 vertical non-overlapping sections of the screen, then use garbage mattes to combine the 4 shots. Just make sure the lighting and background do not change from shot to shot – also may want to set the camera to record and not touch it at all.

    If you want more than the number of occurences of the same person in a shot, and have some overlap, you might try this – although Premiere might not do it:

    Position some rectangles of green material behind the talent, in the overlap sections of the scene. Then once you have recorded the “foreground” shots, position your talent in front of the green, then with the positions set, remove the green, and get the shots. Then, assuming the camera has not moved for any of the shots, use AE to key the background shots into the green areas, thus having overlapping actions, without completely compositing every shot.

    Don’t know if that would work, but might be an interesting experiment.

    Mike Cohen

  • Jon Wilkins

    July 12, 2006 at 7:46 pm

    Thanks Mike,

    Some interesting suggestions. I’ll try the garbage mattes – I haven’t tried that at all yet. I’ve tried a few things but not got anything I’m happy with. It would be useful to know how the actual Kylie video was shot but I haven’t been able to track that down either. I’ve seen similar work elsewhere and I’m sure its possible without expensive kit but finding the actual method is proving a challenge. Keeps me busy though!

    Cheers!

    Jon

  • Mike Cohen

    July 13, 2006 at 5:17 am

    Michel Gondry has made some of the best videos over the past decade – his work is the Michael Mann influence of the 21st century, in my opinion.

  • Jon Wilkins

    July 13, 2006 at 11:53 am

    Yes, quite whacky at times but technically and artistically innovative. There’s a series of DVD’s available with collections of work from Michel Gondry, Chris Cunningham, Spike Jonze etc under the title “Director’s Label” – some really great stuff and good to see as collections of work.

    J

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