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  • black frames between cuts

    Posted by Mike Armstrong on March 28, 2007 at 6:36 pm

    Hi,

    I’m editing an HDV movie shot the Panasonic P2. I’ve been editing in 720p60 and have output my files to DVD a few times now. Everything is perfect!

    Today I converted my files to 1080p24 & have gone from 4:3 to 16:9

    I just output the DVD now & popped it in the player and now there is 1 black frame at every cut point, so everytime we cut from one shot to another there is 1 black frame between shots.

    Does anyone have any idea what this is? did it happen because I switched formats?

    I really have no idea what’s going on & Any help will be greatly appreciated – if i need to give more info on this problem let me know.

    Mike
    (also posted in fcp forum with no answers)

    “Rage against the Dying of the Light”

    Martin Macdonald replied 15 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Lara Piepschyk

    February 20, 2008 at 5:53 am

    Hi Mike,

    I realise this post is almost a year old, but … I am having the same problem and am wondering whether you figured out what was causing the black frame between cuts when you output?

    My timeline and footage is NTSC but I am outputting to PAL. I reckon the problem is something to do with the change of frame rates? But no idea how to prevent it.

    Any ideas?

    Lara

  • Martin Macdonald

    December 9, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    And a further 2 years (almost!) on… i am having the same problem.

    In my case i’m going from a 1080p film scan (some at 18fps, some at 24fps) to PAL output and it seems to be resulting in two black frames at every cut.

    Did anyone stumble upon a solution/reason?

    I’ll be trying to sort this out until it works, so will post my results in case any other FCP-newcomers like myself run into this.

    Cheers, M

  • Lara Piepschyk

    December 11, 2009 at 7:02 am

    Hey,

    I have had the problem again since then … this time PAL to PAL so it’s not to do with frame rate. The commonality both times was a change in format – so I reckon that’s the culprit as suggested earlier in the thread … still no idea how to correct it. To take it further, I actually think it may have something to do with interlaced footage? As both times I encountered this problem, it was from footage from DVDs (and another guy on this thread had problems with HD interlaced footage from an HDi camera …

    I managed to fix it by literally duplicating frames at each cut – and then applying a compression marker to each frame around the cut, so that each of those frames around the cut could not be compressed (or interlaced) when outputting to a quicktime movie or whatever (remember when outputting to make sure you select “include all markers” or whatever that pulldown menu says. This was a very long way around the problem, and I’m sure there’s a WAY better solution … but no-one responded to my thread, so that was what I did.

    Best of luck!

    Lara

  • Martin Macdonald

    December 11, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Hi Lara,

    I went ahead and did a whole bunch of exports using different settings, taking various notes. I found that exporting as Photo-jpeg had perfect results. I’m still not sure why though! I have quite a few more of these little projects to do going from HD scanned super 8 film out to dvd, so it’ll be interesting to see if this happens every time. I will have to give your method a shot next time. Thanks for the tip!

    Martin

  • Nick Teti

    September 24, 2010 at 5:20 am

    I have the same problem with FCP #7. I have tried exporting Pro Rez, DVCPRO HD & SD for files and get these erratic black frames. I see other people have the same problems. Have you found a fix ? Thank you for your time, Nick – contact@misterphoton.com

  • Martin Macdonald

    September 24, 2010 at 7:08 am

    Hi,

    I stopped having this problem after i began converting everything to ProRes 422 before doing any editing. I’m not sure if this is why the problem went away, but it only ever happened with super 8 footage that had been scanned in HD with some open source codec that FCP didn’t seem to fully understand. Once i started converting to 422 straight away… no more black frames!

    Hope that’s of some use.
    Cheers

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