Black bars not included when exporting 4:3 footage in 16:9 project

[Mike Cohen]

Please clarify your workflow. For example:

VHS 16:9 footage, into capture card, into Premiere 16:9 project.

Also your export settings.

When you work in 16:9 and export a MPEG-2 out of Premiere, assuming you set the aspect ration to 16:9, and your DVD authoring software, such as Encore, correctly interprets (or is made to interpret) the aspect ration, the burned DVD will display the video correctly. On a TV/set top DVD player, the 16:9 flag on the video tells the DVD player how to display the video. On a computer DVD player, the same should be the case.

So in summary, your workflow has to follow the aspect ratio from start to finish.

Mike Cohen

[Lee Lester]

OK previously:

4:3 VHS Footage —>Pinnacle TV Capture Card (set to encode as mpg and in 4:3)—>Imported into and placed on timeline of 16:9 Premiere Project—>Exported as DV (PAL) 16:9 Widescreen—>Imported into 16:9 iDVD project

This displayed the originally 4:3 footage on a widescreen tv correctly as (I believe) the black bars encoded by Premiere were there to stop the footage looking stretched.

Now:

4:3 MiniDV footage—>Captured with Premiere Pro and placed on timeline in a 16:9 project —>Exported as DV (PAL) 16:9 Widescreen—>Imported into 16:9 iDVD project

Displays footage stretched on a 16:9 tv as no black bars are present.

I hope this helps clarify things – subsequent replies may be late as it’s 1.45am here in the UK…

Thanks for your help…

[Harm Millaard]

This is correct. PP is doing what you told it to do. If you want something different, try interpret footage.

Harm Millaard

[Brian Scott]

When you captured the new footage, had you already set the project to 16:9? Maybe the capture was interpreted as being 16:9. I’m not a Premiere expert, but perhaps you need to capture in 4:3 and then import into a new 16:9 project. which is essentially what you did originally, because you captured outside Premiere

Brian Scott
President
Image Design Productions, Inc.

[Lee Lester]

Thanks for your replies…I’ve tried interpret footage, but it makes no difference, and I’m pretty sure I captured in 4:3 as it looks fine on the monitor…

Here’s a screengrab of my Premiere – you can see in the monitor that the black bars are present and correct, so why when I export in 16:9 are they not present in the resulting clip?

Thanks again…

[Ann Bens]

When capturing footage from VHS it is automaticly 4:3. If you want to make it into widescreen (which i do not recommend because of loss off quality) you import the footage into a widescreen project, scale the footage up and export to widescreen dvd.
Other workflow is putting your footage in a Standaard project and adding black bars on top and bottom footage and exporting as standard dvd. Black bars can me made in the titler.

[Mike Cohen]

Are there other 16:9 native elements in your 16:9 project?
In other words, why add 4:3 video to a 16:9 project if there are no other 16:9 images in the project?
If your goal is to have your standard def DVD play back in 16:9 tv screen without the usual stretching of the image that these sets like to do, then your 16:9 project with 4:3 non-stretched video does indeed make sense. THis way, when the tv tries to stretch the image, it won’t. Assuming the 16:9 flag on your DVD is working, the video should look correct.
In your media encoder export settings, make sure you set the pixel aspect raio to 16:9 widescreen.

[Mike Cohen]

maybe show us a screen shot of your export settings, and your project settings, if you can’t make any progress

[Lee Lester]

[Mike Cohen] “If your goal is to have your standard def DVD play back in 16:9 tv screen without the usual stretching of the image that these sets like to do, then your 16:9 project with 4:3 non-stretched video does indeed make sense. “

This is indeed what I’m trying to do….

here’s a screenshot of my project settings and here’s one of my export settings…

Still not sure what the issue is, but I think I might admit defeat and leave the 4:3 videos stretched…

Thanks very much for all your help anyway, it’s very much appreciated!

Lee

[Mike Cohen]

looks correct

so you are exporting to DV, then importing the DV file into Encore? Make sure you right click on the filename of your video in Encore, and interpret pixel aspect ratio to 16:9 widescreen, or something like that.