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  • bizarre ‘stretch to fill frame’ behavior

    Posted by Alan Lacey on April 18, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    I’ve a very small png logo that I’m wanting to super over a portion of my timeline.

    When I put in on a track and try to position/scale it with event pan/crop, Vegas(7) insists on stretching it to full screen.

    The Source control ‘stretch to fill frame’ in the pan/crop controls seems to do exactly the opposite when I deselect it.

    I must be doing something wrong here, surely Vegas can super a graphic – pixel for pixel?

    Alan in PALland

    Alan Lacey replied 19 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Laszlo Kovacs

    April 18, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    Stretch to fill stretches to fill frame what you crop.
    If your image is 32*32 pixel, set pan/crop to stretch,
    but width to 720, height to 576 (since you are living in PALland:))
    Play with the x/y center to position your logo.
    If you want the logo to be smaller increase the crop with/heigth.
    Or decrease them if you want the logo to be larger.

    Hope I could help.

    By(t)e
    K.L.

  • Mike Kujbida

    April 18, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    … Vegas(7) insists on stretching it to full screen.

    Unfortunately that’s the way Vegas handles things 🙁
    You have 2 choices here.
    #1 is to create a full-size transparent frame, drop the properly positioned graphic on it and position accordingly.
    #2 is to use the zoom & pan features built into Pan/Crop to position your graphic.

  • Alan Lacey

    April 18, 2007 at 8:03 pm

    Thanks Guys,

    Mike, I guess I’ll have to use option 1 as the zoom and pan features in pan/crop don’t allow me to get it small enough. (not even to pixel for pixel!)

    Do you understand what the ‘stretch to fill frame’ button does? I can’t figure the logic.

    Alan

  • Mike Kujbida

    April 19, 2007 at 12:49 am

    “I guess I’ll have to use option 1 as the zoom and pan features in pan/crop don’t allow me to get it small enough.”

    Small images shouldn’t be a problem as you can zoom in quite far.
    How small is the image anyway?

    “Do you understand what the ‘stretch to fill frame’ button does?”

    I didn’t so I played with turning it on and off to see what happened when I zoomed or panned an image. Try it and see for yourself.

  • Laszlo Kovacs

    April 19, 2007 at 6:54 am

    [Alan Lacey] “Do you understand what the ‘stretch to fill frame’ button does?”

    As it says. It stretches the the image you pan/crop.
    To make it more clear:

    Let your project’s size 720*576.
    Let your image size 100*100.
    When you get this onto the timline, it will be enlarged to 576*576.
    You can then crop a part of this image: in this situation the image
    size does not change, but you see the cropped part only.
    Set the width/height to 10, x/y center to 5 and “stretch” to NO – you see the upper left corner of your image, but again it’s enlarged by a factor of 5.76 so actually 57*57 pixel on the screen.
    Now set “stretch to fill” to YES, what you get is that the of image
    fills the projects frame size, 720*576, so you see again a 576*576 picture. If you switch “maintain aspect” off, it will get wider to fill horizontally too (image distorted:)).

    What you really want is the opposite effect: making the picture to look smaller. You can do this by cropping a LARGER area then the image actually is.
    So, your image is 100*100, you want it to be displayed as 100*100 then you have to crop as follows:
    Set “Stretch” to YES, width to 720, heigth to 576. That implements some “zooming out”.
    Until now I didn’t discovered, that you cannot extend the cropping area to be larger than 8 times the original image.

    Another option for you is to use track motion to display your logo in a size sou need.

    It’s usage is more intuitive, try it 😉

    By(t)e
    K.L.

  • Alan Lacey

    April 19, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    Thanks guys I’ll give it a go.

    Alan

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