Bezier handles in Graph editor?

[Editing-jos]

Played a little bit more.
Still dont see the ability of customizable beziers on the keyframes (not velocity).

We really need better keyframe controls, especially with all the 3D functions.

Adobe:
-Why only linear, continous bezier, automatic?

-Why not able to only use keyframes on the channels that NEED to be keyframed? ex. If you move X position it creates still keyframes for Y and Z on that frame!!! = Clusters of keyframs you dont even need!!! Not very pro. (Look at other programs like Lightwave/Digitalfusion)

[Editing-jos]

Now it it just me or I’m I right?
A bouncing ball doesnt seem possible in AE?
Because you need to edit the Y motion. But since the X and Y are locked, the X takes over any bezier control you add to Y. While the X motion needs to be independent. (linear from left to right)

This is the way it should be possible!
https://fubar.fateback.com/lwgraph.png (copy/paste in browers if clicking doesnt work)

ps: You can do it with 2 null objects, one for X and one for Y. But that is just a insane workflow.

[Thehardmenpath]

You CAN do that, you can use the usual adobe distortion controls like with masks or illustrator. I don’t know how, as I haven’t used it yet, but I’ve seen it, so keep checking or look at the documentation, cause it has to be somewhere.

[Mylenium]

You can’t edit position keyframes with B

[Barend Onneweer]

[editing-jos] ”
-Why only linear, continous bezier, automatic?”

Are you only able to work with linear interpolation in the Graph Editor? Have you tried converting keyframes? It works similar to changing vertices in Illustrators path editing.

There is a limitation with showing spatial curves, but you can edit velocitycurves just fine. Although not X, Y and Z separately.

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[Editing-jos]

I’m not whining!
Its a fact not?

Hacking the preferences isnt a normal way of doing stuff. It should be implanted standard.
I really love after effects but this drives me crazy. I wish someone from adobe here would answer me about this problem.

Btw, is it only me or is a bouncing ball not possible like I showed few threads up?
Because Y velocity changes the X velocity also and this makes it look like crap!

[Barend Onneweer]

[editing-jos] “I wish someone from adobe here would answer me about this problem.”

Well, like you mentioned, currently there’s no separate curves for x, y and z translation.

You could actually achieve bouncing ball easily with only one null object though. And with 7.0 you can have both curves overlayed in the graph editor, so it’s not like it’s a huge deal…

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[Editing-jos]

Not a huge deal?
I’m gonna do a 2 minute project with 3D flythoughs.
With like lotsss of layers. And when I still got shitty keyframes controls, that is gonna cost some extra time/money.

I just wanna know if its so hard to change it like all the other programs work?

‘Full spline control on keyframes + independent channel keyframes’ is all I want. 🙂