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  • Betacam_SP or analog Composite/Component professional video format Effect needed

    Posted by Rick Anvican on February 11, 2014 at 12:09 am

    Hi all,
    I know many here work in the digital realms these days, but would anyone have a clue on where I could get an effect that simulates the visual characteristics of a standard resolution (SD) analog composite/component professional video format like Betacam_SP or MII?

    This is for a project based on videos from the 1990s, the effect doesn’t need to be too strong, just moderate/noticeable emphasis on analog artifacts like dot crawl, dropout and analog “warmth”.

    So far, the closest analog machine I have is a consumer VTR from the mid-80s, though the “analog” effect from that is too heavy.

    Thanks in advance.

    Rick Anvican replied 12 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Steve Rhoden

    February 11, 2014 at 12:31 am

    Not sure how that looks!

    Steve Rhoden
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  • Kelly Griffin

    February 11, 2014 at 12:38 am

    You may be hard pressed to come up with whatever “that” looks like… BetaSP was a pretty dang nice format for a long time, and aside from occasional “dropouts”, I don’t know what one would expect the look to look like.

    –KG

  • Rick Anvican

    February 11, 2014 at 1:34 am

    No, I meant something along the lines of BetaSP, I haven’t actually seen how BetaSP looks like but I’ve seen MII, they were similar in visual quality I suppose? If BetaSP looked good, then I might be after some other format.

    I was given one of the transferred masters of one of the videos that I based my project on, the most noticeable thing was the dot crawl that hinged on contrasting edges like computer-generated titles. The master I have was digitally obtained from the analog master but because the original tape was lost (and was already in bad shape), there’s no info. on what format it was, besides it knowing that it was an analog composite video format. Now, I’ve seen 1990s Canon cameras in action, but I’m not sure what format they used to record and how many formats for professional use do exist.

    Yes, after all I’m only simulating and nothing beats the real thing.

  • Chris Jeremy

    February 11, 2014 at 2:11 am

    I’m chucking out a BVW75. Will that do?

  • Rick Anvican

    February 11, 2014 at 2:31 am

    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for suggesting, but after further inspection of the videos my project is based on, the quality of BetaSP seems a bit too high in comparison, I’ll probably see what effects Virtualdub can do.
    Initially, I only wanted the effect to be achieved through software, doing it by real hardware meaning recording the computer output and capturing it again would take more time, the project was scheduled to be done in about 3 weeks.

    The company that produced these videos used Canon’s analog cameras and editing systems, switching in 2000s over to digital and only recently switched to Sony’s digital camera systems.
    When did the BVW75 come out? Looks packed full of features, must have been pretty expensive back in those days. I remember that I had access to a Panasonic MII VTR when I was young and I actually edited some videos with it.

    Thanks for your offer anyway.

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