- December 14, 2017 at 11:51 pm
I am editing a doc in Avid MC8… we have been screening cuts with our client, who is on the opposite coast, using a semi-hacked system of an app called ManyCam, a screen capture app, used as a source in Skype… (we cannot get Skype to recognize our Black Magic card as a source)… is there a better way? It turns out you need a fully tricked out 12-core Mac trash can to get smooth playback, of which we only have 1 at our facility. Any suggestions?
- December 15, 2017 at 11:31 pm
What is your latency between you stopping and playing and your client seeing the stop and start at the other end?
- December 16, 2017 at 5:45 pm
I’ve used slingbox with pretty good success. I have a ustream link on my website that i can point clients to. I’m in the process of setting up my own rtmp server and seeing how that works.
I’ve had anywhere from a 5 to 20 second delay.
At the end of it all, so much depends on the clients internet connection, as well as your own upload speed. If you have slow upload, and your client is on wireless, it could be less than optimal.
I always add a timecode burn to my timeline, and make sure the client knows they can’t just say “there” They have to give me a timecode. You do also have to listen for your audio coming back over the phone or skype…what ever you are using for communication, and try to figure out the delay. That will let you know that when they say stop…you have to go back x number of seconds on your timeline to be looking at the same shot. The trick is to be able to do changes, and talk to the client, while filling the gap of those 5,10,15 seconds, as some clients get impatient and can’t understand why what they are asking for isn’t happening immediately. Even when you explain the delay. (we’ve all worked with clients right?)
Blackmagic does now sell a device that will trick skype into seeing your computer output as a webcam. I haven’t had a chance to try it yet, but that may be a good route to go as well.
- December 17, 2017 at 5:00 pm
this is the correct answer to your question. I am actually surprised that everyone doesn’t know this, as it’s such an amazing product.
You already own a Blackmagic card. You say that you can’t get Skype to recognize it. Well you can with this product !
$470 at B&H, and I suggest buying the extra $85 from control panel/monitor. Work with up to 4K UHD images.
take the SDI or HDMI output of your Blackmagic card, and stick it into the Blackmagic Web Presenter. Stick the Web Presenter into the computer you are going to stream with. You do NOT need to load any software, or drivers for the Blackmagic Web Presenter – it will emulate a web cam, and turn your Media Composer output (with embedded audio) into a stream for YouTube Live, Facebook Live, Periscope (Twitter) or Skype (they do more as well). It ain’t gonna get easier or cheaper than this. And if you can’t figure out how to do it, go down to the local junior high school, where all the 13 years olds are putting themselves up on Facebook Live all day long. They can show you how to use it.
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- December 18, 2017 at 4:30 pm
Sorry for the delay in my response (pun intended). The delay is about is typically about 5 seconds. It was a hassle at first using Slingbox with clients via a web browser because they needed to install a special plugin. The desktop app made it a lot easier to get them up and running. Plus, I didn’t want to be responsible for any future client browser issues which I know would be blamed on installing anything new.
I hope all is well with you. Happy Holidays!
- December 18, 2017 at 9:46 pm
How about giving the free OBS Streaming Software a go.
It works with the BlackMagic Cards.
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- December 22, 2017 at 8:10 pm
As with many of these streaming programs, they only get you half the way. You still need a reliable server to do the actual streaming. And most of us would much rather have a password protection of some sort for this as well, which a lot of the free ones don’t offer.
AFAIK, OBS is just another encoding. You would still need to send it to Ustream or livestream, or youtube or facebook or Skype or some other place to host the stream. (That’s why I’m looking into hosting my own right now)
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