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  • Best way to ingest dvd to avid?

  • mark anderson

    April 1, 2005 at 4:15 pm

    we do an independent film showcase on the station for first time film-makers and others, and get a good number of submissions on dvd. currently we are using a consumer dvd player, taking component video out and sending it to an a to d converter to sdi where it goes to a digibeta and then avid ingest. anyone able to get the new type of dvd digital output, the hdmi, i believe, and translate that to sdi so i can still go to digibeta? or, i’ve seen an adapter available that will allow you to avoid the dvd’s d to a converter and output directly sdi for around 100 dollars.

    i’ve tried ripping the dvd’s (which i can do at home) without much success here at work. but if someone can tell me that quality is significantly better doing it this way, i may just start pursuing this avenue. why can’t it just be as easy as importing a cd!!!!!

    thanks,

    mark anderson

  • Haze

    April 1, 2005 at 4:28 pm

    I’m unfamiliar with hdmi.

    And I don’t understand your current workflow. The DVD player is converting digital to analog for componet output and then you’re converting back to digital (SDI) by using a converter. There’s nothing to be gained by converting the componet signal to SDI. IMO you should use the componet inputs on the digibeta deck.

    MPEG-2 is what it is, a compressed format. There’s not a lot you can do to improve the quality. The onus is on the film makers to provide their film in a high quality format.

  • Paul Peltekian

    April 2, 2005 at 11:29 am

    Digitize the material component directly into your AVID at 1:1. If you can visually see a difference in the picture from the DVD vs. the 1:1, you’re amazing. Chances are you will never see a visual difference and if it matters that much, have the filmmakers deliver a DigiBeta master.

    As far as ripping the DVD goes… I know of several programs for Windows XP that will rip the DVD then create an AVI wrapper/pointer file that would point back to a .d2v file. Would could then import that into MC Adrenaline or DVXpressPro. But then it would have to convert the file to an OMFI, blah blah blah. 3 hours later…

    You are far better off digitizing at 1:1 in realtime. It’s probably the fastest, cleanest way, without any recompression.

    -Paul

  • mark anderson

    April 2, 2005 at 5:03 pm

    so then no one is taking either the digital out of the hdmi or using this sdi adapter i’ve heard of to keep it digital. projects, footage, old movie clips and so much more are coming in dvd on an everyday basis, does anyone see a day where injest will be as easy and clean as importing audio cd’s? we in “the real world” are already ready for it.

    mark

  • Paul Peltekian

    April 2, 2005 at 7:53 pm

    I dont think the “industry” we’re in wants to make DVD importing or ripping any easier than it already is.

    For those interested in what “HDMI” is go here:

    https://www.hdmi.org

    -p

  • Valerie Shoaps

    April 4, 2005 at 12:24 am

    [Paul Peltekian] “I dont think the “industry” we’re in wants to make DVD importing or ripping any easier than it already is.”

    Hahahaha! Spot on, Paul. They’re spending a lot of $$$ on it, too.

    I agree with what has been said about bringing it in off the component at 1:1. You’re going to start seeing some yuck real fast applying any more compression to it. When mixing multiple sources, keep a eye out for any field reversal hijinx.

    Valerie

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