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  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 27, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    Thanks J-F.

    [Jean-François Robichaud] “FCP X inserted that long clip in the main storyline of the synced compound clip and connected everything else to it (including the audio clip).”

    This would be similar to putting a gap clip in the main story line that is the length of the song, and then pair the gap to the song. You can then take all of your clips as secondary story lines and slide them around as need be.

    Sounds like the compound clip is sort of the same idea.

  • Jean-françois Robichaud

    June 27, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    Regarding the wrong frame rate used by FCP X in the syncing process, I just realised that it’s my fault, as my main video clip (the one that spans the whole song) is a non-standard SD clip with square pixels, rather than 0.9. I outputted it from MPEG Streamclip with the wrong settings. That seems to be why FCP X failed to interpret it properly.

    When I drag this clip in the timeline I get a window saying: “The Video Properties of this clip are not recognized”, with an option to select Format, Resolution and Rate.

    All my other clips (outputted from FCP 7 as SD clips with proper 0.9 pixels) are interpreted correctly.

    My mistake, it’s not a bug after all. If all my clips have standard properties, then the syncing process creates a compound clip with the correct settings. But that just goes to show that FCP X does not support non-standard formats, which might not be a bug, but quite a frustrating limitation.

  • Jean-françois Robichaud

    June 27, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    But why would you want to sync clips manually?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 27, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    [Jean-François Robichaud] “But why would you want to sync clips manually?”

    Perhaps I am misunderstanding the OP, but it sounds like he has multiple discontinuous clips. You might have to.

    Also, all I have to blame is myself is something is out of sync. 😉

    Jeremy

  • Bill Marcellus

    June 28, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    Thanks to all of you that responded! Unfortunately, the audio did not sync- probably due to the fact that the on set audio playback is of very low quality, not to mention that there are repeated shouted instructions from the director while the camera is rolling. Also, all of the takes are of different sections of the complete track- there is no master shot that encompasses the entire length of the song.

    At this point, I am stacking and syncing manually in FCP 7 as it is the only way that I can get this scene cut. This was all shot on the Red BTW.

    However, this does bring me to another question. I have several scenes with eight tracks of audio- six tracks of lavs from individual actors plus a stereo pair from the boom. Does anybody know if FCP X will handle eight tracks of audio?

    Again, thanks for everyone’s help- the Cow is awesome.

    Bill

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 28, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    OK. So I would take a gap clip and pair the proper audio track to it.

    I would then take all the clips and slide them around on top of the gap clip until they were in sync.

    Sometimes you have to do work the manual way.

  • Timothy Palmer-benson

    August 25, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    This issue is similar to one I am trying to resolve in FCPX. In FP7, I have been using multiple cameras and multiple audio tracks. I put everything on the timeline without edits and get Pluraleyes to match everything up. Works like a charm, BUT until recently I never used FP7’s multi-clip feature. I just used the Pluraleyes Sequence to reveal each camera as I wanted. I jused the razor tool a lot and j shorten clips to reveal others or used the edit function to cut out clips on a particularly track, always watching to see if my actions put me out of synch. I kept a Zoom audio track and deleted the audio camera tracks when they seemed a bit echoey or not that good, or I simply disabled the audio tracks. Not particularly fast, but worked for me.

    So, how do you duplicate this work flow in FCP X..it seems from the posts here that it might be possible by following the steps here?

    What would a do about the single audio track from the Zoom? Connect a Gap clip to it and make FCPX think it is a regular video clip that it can use as the underlying storyline?

    When out on a shoot, I always audio record the whole thing in the best quality possible and use that instead of the camera mikes.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 25, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    [Timothy Palmer-Benson] “So, how do you duplicate this work flow in FCP X..it seems from the posts here that it might be possible by following the steps here?”

    Maybe this?

    https://youtu.be/qNnBl026GzM

  • Tom Wolsky

    August 25, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Have you been able to use the Zoom with the Synchronize Clips function? I can’t get it to match up at all or to hold sync between 10 seconds or so.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
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    “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press

  • Timothy Palmer-benson

    August 25, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    No, I haven’t tried, but I was wondering if you used a blank video clip for the entire length of the Zoom audio clip and marry them together somehow (not sure how to do this), would you be able to fool FCPX into treating it as a the base video clip from which it can synch all the other clips…I know that Pluraleyes has the same issue in FCP 7 if you are doing multi clip.

    Would love to resolve this somehow…can’t find anything in any tuts or posting about this workflow other than here!!!

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