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Best way to add filters to movie etc
Posted by Emma Assin on September 9, 2008 at 2:11 amhiya
i’m coming to the end of making a short and have the audio wrapped up, the edit finished, all in final cut pro. now what i want to do is a little color correction and try some stuff to make it look a bit more filmic. so, my question is – how do i get it from final cut to after effects to work on it? is the best way to export the whole thing out to the camera and bring it back to a.e? or export at a high quality and put it across and back again? this feels like it’ll loose quality overall from being compressed and re-compressed (and i don’t know what settings to choose) 🙂 any advice? what do people usually do?
thanks!
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Michael Gissing
September 9, 2008 at 2:21 am[Emma Assin] “any advice? what do people usually do?”
I use FCP to grade and add filters. There are excellent plugins for film type deinterlacing etc. Unless there is another reason to take it to AE, I would search the forums here for info on using the FCP color correction tools and film look.
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Rafael Amador
September 9, 2008 at 2:26 amHi Emma,
The only way to do it properly in AE would be with AutomaticDuck.
This plugin let you bring your FC sequence to AE so you could work in separated clips. But AutomaticDuck is really expensive.
Other ways you have to bring your full movie to AE and key-frame your correction.
Why don’t you do it in FC or in Color?
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Chris Poisson
September 9, 2008 at 3:53 pmEmma,
To answer your question, the best way to AE short of Automatic Duck would be to export a self-contained movie at your sequence settings, a QuickTime export, not QuickTime Conversion.
But, for basic color correcting and film looks, FCP is more than capable. Then you have Color for more advanced work.
I’d take a look at the Nattress Film Effects, they do great film looks and you can adjust colors and gamma in them quite well. Often, they are the only filters I use.
Have a wonderful day.
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Emma Assin
September 9, 2008 at 4:03 pmthanks all for your posts – i’m going to do some more research and see if i can get it done in FCP. Nattress sounds like a good deal if they can do everything in one package… hope they’re not too expensive 🙂
oh and another question – if i get these filters, do i need to apply them to each and every clip on the timeline or can i do like an ‘apply to all’ thing?
thanks again and will be sure to post back if/when i get stuck again!
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Chris Poisson
September 9, 2008 at 4:14 pmEmma, those filters ar only around a hundred bucks, and worth every penny. You will notice they have a 24p and a 30 p mode up at the top. i work in NTSC and prefer the 30p look, but that’s just me.
Yes, normally you would apply whichever look you go with (there are about 15 or so presets which you can tweak)to each clip separately unless all your shots are close to the same. Normally I will do two or three settings and then copy those to the clips they work with.
Have a wonderful day.
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Emma Assin
September 9, 2008 at 4:21 pmthanks again chris! looks like this is my best bet. will see about purchasing it when i get home from work. i’m afraid i don’t understand the whole NTSC/PAL, 30/24p thing… my movie was shot on NTSC and i haven’t done anything to it in Final Cut yet apart from cutting it the way i wanted. also added an opening title sequence done in after effects and a scrolling title at the end from that titling program that comes with FCP! don’t even know the name 🙂 i’m a bit of a nOOb, heh. are the instructions that come with the filters easy to figure out for someone like me??
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Chris Poisson
September 9, 2008 at 4:59 pmHey Emma,
Didn’t know if you were in PAL or NTSC land, it would help if you filled out your profile a bit.
The filters are a bit daunting to look at, but if you take 5 minutes to go through one, it becomes pretty easy. Most of the settings you leave at default, but scroll down to the saturation and gamma, black point, white point section, and this is where you’ll change things.
All of them have the same controls, there are check boxes to turn entire sections on and off. You’ll get the hang of it.
Have a wonderful day.
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Emma Assin
September 9, 2008 at 5:12 pmthere we go, i added a bit to my profile! i work in flash and spend more time on flash forums, so i haven’t been around here much! filmmaking is more of a hobby and supporting my husband who’s a DP. anyway, thanks again and i’ll see if i can get my head round all this when i get home tonight!
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Emma Assin
September 9, 2008 at 9:15 pmhave been doing some reading around and came across this post:
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1002283might i have the same problems as this guy with the natress filter? don’t want to spend $100 on it and have it make things worse! can anyone explain what was going wrong for him?
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Chris Poisson
September 9, 2008 at 11:03 pmEmma,
His problem with judder has to do with converting from 60i to 24p, that’s a big step and won’t work well if there’s a lot of motion, pans etc. going on. Which is why in an earlier post I explained why I prefer the 30p setting. You still get a nice progressive film look, but it’s a lot smoother. I never use 24p conversion for anything. If I want 24p that’s what I’d shoot.
Have a wonderful day.
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