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Best way from FCP to Flash Video for web?
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Ed,
You missed my point. It has nothing to do with my being offended. Your information about h.264 simply wasn’t responsive to Brad’s initial question, and we ended up with twelve posts about h.264, when my response to him provided the information he needed.
If you see Brad’s latest post (in the previous thread on this subject) he starts it off by saying that the h.264 discussion is over his head. He then goes on to ask about things more important to his mission, which are about using Flix Pro to create Flash, exactly the info on which I had focused.
David
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Well, one of us is missing the point. He asked about exporting for Flash, you said there is no Flash codec in FCP, I said that’s wrong. Get over it. You like ON2, so do I, H.264 is over his head, not my problem.
Ed[David Roth Weiss] “our information about h.264 simply wasn’t responsive to Brad’s initial question, and we ended up with twelve posts about h.264, when my response to him provided the information he needed. “
[David Roth Weiss] “No Flash codecs are included with FCP.”
[Brad Jenkins] “My question is: to obtain the highest quality Flash video, what is the best way to export/render from the FCP timeline to the final high-quality Flash video?
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[Brad Jenkins] “What is best to end up with, a .flv or .swf or whatever the 3rd one is .f4l or something like that :)”
Of course I’ve now answered most of your other questions in that other thread…
The answer to this question is somewhat complicated and too complex to go into here in any depth. THe answer depends upon the requirements of your web application and web designer. Adobe is very much tied into .FLVs, because action scripts, which are the only way to create players in Abobe Flash and Dreamweaver, require them. But, Flix Pro can create players right into in SWFs and can do pretty sophisticated progressive downloading with SWFs as well, which it can’t do with with FLVs. So, I stick with SWFs for those reason. SWFs are however limited to videos with a duration of 16,000 frames, or about eight or nine minutes.
As I wrote in my initial post Brad, mastering Flash encoding is a complex subject. I’ve been using Flix Pro for two years and still struggle to obatain that perfect balance of high quality and smooth play when dealing with long files. I recommend that you either get the demo of Flix Pro or the real thing and immerse yourself in it. Its really the only way to learn it well. If you have specific questions along the way I can help, but its way to deep to go into on this site.
David
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[Ed Dooley] “Well, one of us is missing the point. He asked about exporting for Flash, you said there is no Flash codec in FCP, I said that’s wrong.”
No, its not wrong, the fact that h.264 can be played by some at this point on the Flash player is simply extraneous information that I intentionally left out, because it’s not germane to the question at hand.
As forum leaders who know our audience well, part of our job in these forums to pick and choose the information we write. Just like editing a film, we do our best, especially on the busiest forums, to advance the story and to leave out extraneous details that would serve only to confuse the audience and add to the huge amount of excess bandwidth that is wasted by hijackers such as yourself who have a personal agenda.
The purpose here is not to impress anyone with extraneous details in one’s personal database, but rather to help others with the issues before them. Its quite evident that your goal is not to help or advance the anything other than perhaps the false perception that you know something that others do not.
Well, I am here to help Ed, and the proof is in the pudding. After you’ve posted 8000 times on the Cow come back and argue with me on this topic if you still care to do so. Until then, grow up and try to keep on topic so that others will benefit from your knowledge instead of simply being impressed by it.
David
And BTW Ed, for the record, if you were to do a search of the Cow, you would find that I posted a thread about Adobe’s h.264 initiative and posted a link to their press release on the very day they made the announcement.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Well, I am here to help Ed, and the proof is in the pudding. After you’ve posted 8000 times on the Cow come back and argue with me on this topic if you still care to do so. Until then, grow up and try to keep on topic so that others will benefit from your knowledge instead of simply being impressed by it.”
Quantity of posts do not equal Quality.
Ed’s discussion was valid as the question was what is the best way to get from FCP to Flash Video. In theory H.264 is now supported by Flash so in theory you can directly from FCP and/or Compressor to Flash with nothing else required.
In practice it’s not quite that easy yet.
I would consider the H.264 a branch of the original discussion.
Oh and if you really want to discuss numbers, then as of right now it’s 16,800 since September 2001.
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[walter biscardi] “I would consider the H.264 a branch of the original discussion.”
Ed made h.264 “the” discussion, and it’s very clear by the follow-up from Brad, who started the thread, that he agrees with me on this. I think that’s what really important.
And, Ed also said the fact that it was over the head of the person who posed the original question didn’t matter to him. That makes it very clear that Ed misses the entire point of the Cow.
Enough said… Onto more important issues…
David Roth Weiss
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First of all, can we all play in the sandbox nicely and stop beating a bigger drum.
When I want the final file to be Flash using FCP, I just output normally to QT movie and use the application “Visual Hub” to convert it to a Flash Movie or any other format I want. Nothing technical, just straight old doing it.
https://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/
Dave
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I gotta jump in here and suggest NOT getting Flix Pro. I bought it and I think it’s awful compared to Sorenson Squeeze Flash Edition. Just my opinion of course, but I ended up buying both a few weeks ago and it’s a night and day difference on many levels.
Sean
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really, thats good to hear. Now Im trying to find an alternative to buying one of these programs. I only need to convert 3 short videos for my new website, and I really don’t want to spend that cash if I dont have too. Thanks for the info.
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[Sean ONeil] “I gotta jump in here and suggest NOT getting Flix Pro. I bought it and I think it’s awful compared to Sorenson Squeeze Flash Edition.”
So spill the beans Sean. Do you find it difficult to use? Or do you think it’s inferior in some other way?
David Roth Weiss
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