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best software to import P2
Posted by Jason Miller on November 27, 2007 at 6:05 pmI see a lot of discussion about software to assist with log and transfer/management of P2 files, but I was hoping to get peoples on opinion on the best program for my situation..I think the Panasonic program that came out only works with the old version of quicktime??
P2 genie?? basically the main thing I want to do is automate the naming process so I dont have to go through and name every clip before ingesting it.
thanks so much
Thomas Scheffer replied 18 years, 5 months ago 8 Members · 19 Replies -
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Shane Ross
November 27, 2007 at 7:58 pmP2 Genie automates copying from the cards to drives, and makes folders with names to put the CONTENTS and LASTCLIP.txt file into. It doesn’t automate the naming process.
Don’t know about P2CMS…does that? I personally wouldn’t want a naming automator…because every shot is pretty different. At least in my world. A few of the same (multiple takes), but mostly different.
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Bob Woodhead
November 27, 2007 at 9:33 pmP2CMS will create a user-defined folder for transfers. It also verifies after the copy.
For “auto” naming, the best bet is to use Raylight. It creates QT reference files from the MXF (P2) files that FCP can use without importing. Big time & space saver. Also, it can preface file names with user metadata that the camera records with each clip.
Example:
in the P2 camera, metadata file on SD card has the following info stored –
Program=Movie_11_27_07
UserClipName=OnCam Take
Shooter=Bob
Location=Atlantathis info is recorded as metadata onto each clip as you shoot. the “UserClipName” is appended each time with a #, that can be reset to 001. In example above, you’d get “OnCam Take 001, OnCam Take 002”, etc
When I offload cards via P2CMS, I’ll use the option of creating a folder for the transfer, eg, “BigMovie”. Now all MXFs go into that folder from camera.
Raylight then makes a folder called “Movie_11_27_07”, holding QT reference files of all clips from that day. (folder is based on “Program” metadata.) Each clip has a name something like “OnCam Take 001 0021EK.MXF.mov”
So with minimal typing, you’ve got all your MXFs from each project together in a folder, Qt refs in folders based upon shoot day, and files named according to content. Bingo. By having several metadata files on the SD card pre-edited, you can switch from having clips called “On_cam” to “broll” to “wild” etc etc
Capice?
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Jeremy Garchow
November 27, 2007 at 10:35 pm[Bob Woodhead] “Capice? “
No, how do you modify the metadata with a Mac? Does Raylight allow SD card formatting to?
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Jeremy Garchow
November 27, 2007 at 11:06 pmI get it, it’s P2CMS. It’s not supported above QT 7.1.6.
Oh well.
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Bob Woodhead
November 27, 2007 at 11:48 pm“No, how do you modify the metadata with a Mac? ”
Use an adapter to mount miniSD card on MBP, then just edit the metadata file with TextEdit…. it’s just a text file, with a special extension, in a special folder.
OR… if you meant “how to modify metadata AFTER shooting”, you can with P2CMS, but it’s a one-at-a-time process for clip names.
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Jeremy Garchow
November 28, 2007 at 4:52 am[Bob Woodhead] “you can with P2CMS”
In my limited poking around today, I found you could upload metadata to an SD card, then load that from the camera. So I think it’s before or after shooting with the P2CMS. Right?
Jeremy
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Barry Green
November 28, 2007 at 6:15 amP2CMS lets you edit the metadata on any clip after it’s shot, and it also lets you prep a metadata file to be loaded into the camera so that any new clips that get shot will have that metadata automatically attached to them when they’re created.
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Bob Woodhead
November 28, 2007 at 12:22 pmRe-read my post above… the metadata workflow is outlined fairly carefully.
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Jeremy Garchow
November 28, 2007 at 4:03 pm[Bob Woodhead] “the metadata workflow is outlined fairly carefully. “
Ok.
[Bob Woodhead] “Example:
in the P2 camera, metadata file on SD card has the following info stored –
Program=Movie_11_27_07
UserClipName=OnCam Take
Shooter=Bob
Location=Atlanta “and
[Bob Woodhead] “it’s just a text file, with a special extension, in a special folder.
OR… if you meant “how to modify metadata AFTER shooting”, you can with P2CMS, but it’s a one-at-a-time process for clip names. “
So you are saying there’s a folder called ‘special’ on the SD card? 😀 Sorry, just being snide. In your first example the metadata is already on the card automagically. This is new territory for me as I usually just use FCP for my organization and I find P2CMS to be rather clunky, and for the life of me, I can’t figure out how raylight is going to save me any time at all. The rewrapping to quicktime goes really fast, renaming everything is what takes so damn long and if I can prepare metadata before or during a shoot, I am all for it. That would REALLY speed up the tapeless workflow. Is there anyway to direct connect to the HVX200 (via USB or something) to modify the metadata while shooting or is it all via SD card? Also, since you mentioned a special folder, does the rest of the data (scene files and such) not get touched when uploading metadata to the camera, or do you have to recreate those all over again as well?
In my own tests I found that you can prepare a metadata file for the camera and upload to the SD card, or save it to your desktop for a future upload or email it out to the field or whatever. I guess it’s the same as you method except I can do it before/during/after the shoot with P2CMS instead of just after like you had mentioned.
Any word on when P2CMS is going to be supported over QT 7.1.6?
Jeremy
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Randy Burleson
November 28, 2007 at 4:35 pmHas anyone tried the P2Log Pro from Imagine?
https://www.imagineproducts.com/P2log.htmOr HD LOG Pro demo has a FREE p2 Offload software.
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