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  • Best encoding for Kickstarter video?

    Posted by Layne Russell on August 4, 2014 at 12:25 am

    I’m on W8. I have a 4 minute video I created in Premiere Pro CS6, completed last night – finally! I tried to upload it as an AVI file and I got the message, after it looked like it uploaded, that it couldn’t upload my file. I read more around the web. I went back into Premiere Pro and exported as a WMV file. There are more settings with that selection. I called my friend who helped me learn how to use PPro to make this video and who helped me create it, and we did the best we could figure, selecting Windows Media 9 as a sub setting.

    I uploaded it. It looked like it took. There was a message on the page that said it was processing and would take about twenty minutes. I left the room. When I came back the page looked like I had never done a thing, even after reloading. Hmmm. Is it there or not? Clearly, I’ll have to try again.

    Then I went to my file and watched it in Windows Media Player and it looked awful. So much compression that it’s painful to see. There must be another encoding that will work!

    Are there other sub settings under WMV that would give me better results? My native AVI file was around 900,000 Mb and the WMV is only 48,000. This is cause for great concern – and there must be a better exporting solution.

    Thanks for any advice. My video was supposed to be up this morning. I hadn’t anticipated so much trouble around uploading. AVI is listed as one of the formats they accept, however, I believe the bit rates were too high for them.

    Advice, please!
    Thank you so much!

    Layne

    Drew Smith replied 11 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    August 4, 2014 at 12:44 am

    You can’t embed a video from a site like YouTube? I’ve not used Kickstarter yet, only Indiegogo and we simply uploaded our video to YouTube and embedded it on the Indiegogo page.

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  • Layne Russell

    August 4, 2014 at 1:05 am

    No, they do not support embedded videos. You have to upload to them. Unfortunately, some of the info on the web is outdated, and Kickstarter doesn’t get specific about many parameters, just file formats, size, bit rate. That’s it. But clearly, people have so many issues with this!

    I’m now reading about using MOV or MPEG-4 with H.264.

    There are so many sub settings. I am lost and I’m way behind schedule because of this issue.

  • Layne Russell

    August 4, 2014 at 1:14 am

    I am now trying MPEG-4, H.264, bit rate 2000, audio ACC, fps 29.97, 720×480, stereo….

    There are other settings I don’t know. Field order? (Currently “lower first.”) Aspect? And the square pixel or DV1/DV NTSC Widescreen? I know it is in the latter natively. I remember reading something about pixel shapes and can’t remember if that info is needed now, in my situation of exporting….

  • Walter Biscardi

    August 4, 2014 at 1:31 am

    [Layne Russell] “I am now trying MPEG-4, H.264, bit rate 2000, audio ACC, fps 29.97, 720×480, stereo….”

    That’s going to make a standard def file. Try using the H264 YouTube preset for whatever frame size / frame rate of your original video.

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  • Layne Russell

    August 4, 2014 at 1:38 am

    My video was mistakenly shot in SD 16:9. So I’m stuck in SD, and I’ve made my peace with that. Several kind people here told me not to worry about it, just proceed. 🙂

    Also, I am actually exporting right now as a MOV / H.264 with the sub settings listed above. I tried to make intelligent guesses on what I was not sure of.

  • Layne Russell

    August 4, 2014 at 2:07 am

    I just exported as a MOV H.264 and the quality is okay, however, the size is extremely small, not much bigger than the WMV that sucked, and I just played it back. It was just okay in VLC Player. The quality is slightly better than the WMV, but it’s taken a huge hit and is nowhere as clear as the AVI.

    I’m wondering why Kickstarter is rejecting the AVI file. After uploading and getting the “Processing” message, it just says “File will not upload.” I tried in both Firefox and Chrome. The file size of the AVI is far under the Kickstarter limit of 5GB, so that is clearly not the issue.

    So, if I change export format to MOV or MPEG4, or WMV for that matter, how do I get the highest quality encoding possible with source AVI file of SD 16:9 720×480?

    I am so stuck. I’ll just keep trying things. If anyone has any ideas, I’m all ears!

  • Drew Smith

    August 6, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    Encoding is always a pain. MPEG 4 is generally the most universal- it gets you some better uploading and features on Youtube, but MOV should work fine. My preference is MOV with h.264 codec. but if you chose MP4 just make sure that you either set the size under the video tab on the render settings and change it back to 1280 or whatever you’re using OR, a quick way is to check the box for “match sequence settings” otherwise MP4 will render with the default 3GP presets at a tiny tiny size.

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