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  • Best alternative to DV & how to do it

    Posted by Archie Carrey on November 1, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    This is my first post and I am totally a newbie.
    I am not sure if this is the right section to post to but, could not make up my mind where should I.
    Please redirect me to the right forum if you feel so.

    I have a DV .mov file of 8min (2GB), and i need to transfer it online to someone having only a Windows machine.
    My idea was to convert DV to H264 on Mac (which makes it 200MB) using Quicktime.
    And then my friend (who only has windows) can convert it back to DV using Quicktime. Does the Quicktime player (free) for windows give the “save as” option? Moreover, does a Windows machine read and convert H264 codec (to/from other codecs)?
    Finally, I am sure you guys will have some different solution, please let me know. I can’t transfer 2Gb upload and then download.

    PS: Its for the 48 hour film fest and I can not make it to the city, so that someone will be my representative in that city. And, the 48HFP people only accept DV.

    Archie Carrey replied 15 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Ben Hendriks

    November 1, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    why not chop it up in segments and use ‘yousendit’?

  • Brad Elliott

    November 1, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Your export options are very limited with the QT player version and you shouldn’t be able to export a DV file from and H264 without the full version. H264 is about the only format that will always play on a Mac and a PC as long as they have a version of QT installed.

    I believe the full version of QT on Windows is $30. It would probably be worth it if you have a tight turn-around.

    Unless your friend is familiar with video I would make sure he knows what dimensions the export from QT needs to be. QT default export size may not match your intended deliverable size.

  • Archie Carrey

    November 1, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    Thx for the reply.
    The timeline is pretty strict and I thought this way i will save time. And yes I had planned on chopping it down.
    Normally, 500 MB takes 2hrs to upload & another 2hrs to download.
    I plan to split it in 20 chunks.
    So if someone starts downloading as soon as i upload the 1st file, the upload and download times will overlap.
    The total time from 4hrs, comes down to 2hrs 15 min.

  • Archie Carrey

    November 1, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    Thanks.
    Any other suggestion? For my DV file and I am looking for intermediate compression – decompression solution (both codec & software to do so). What is the best way in your opinion?

  • Brad Elliott

    November 1, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Unless your friend has access to some sort of editing software like Premiere or Vegas you do not have a lot of full-proof options.

    A best quality 2-pass H264 at your native resolution is one of the best options for cross platform scenarios such as yours.

    I presume your deliverable is a data DVD or some sort of drive?

  • Archie Carrey

    November 2, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Yeah! Deliverable is a .mov DV file on data DVD or flash drive.

  • Micah Mcdowell

    November 2, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    I would definitely NOT convert to h.264 and back, since you’re taking a huge quality hit, only to convert it back to the originating format at the end.

    If you have a decently fast internet connection that you can leave on and a little bit of time to wait, try enabling Web Sharing on your Mac. Let him download the original, non-recompressed file straight from your computer. This will save you the intermediate step of uploading and having to host the file somewhere.

    It’s easy to do, you just click a check box in the “Sharing” section of System Preferences and then put your video file in the Sites folder in your home directory. Then, find out what your IP address is, and when he goes to it in his browser, he should be able to download straight from your machine. Here’s a simple guide on how to do it.

  • Micah Mcdowell

    November 2, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Or on second thought, if you have a couple more days, burn it to a disk and stick it in the mail.

  • Archie Carrey

    November 3, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Thanks for the idea. My net speed is 1.5-2Mbps will try beforehand.

    About H.264, I would be editing in DV SD (not HD). Does DV still have better qulaity than H.264 in that regard? I can never get my head around understanding these.

  • Archie Carrey

    February 17, 2011 at 6:33 am

    Could you please point me to a good read on the internet where I can understand codecs?
    I thought H.264 at same data rates would be better (much better) than DV codec? or even HDV codec?

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