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  • Beginner confusion!!

    Posted by Andy Gunn on July 1, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    Hi all,

    I’m sorting my way through FCP, after using Sony Vegas and DVD Architect at a basic level.. and I’m a bit confused with things.. (well just about to pull my hair out actually).. Although I have to admit, I’m a read the manual as a last resort type person!

    first of all, it seems that there are alot more steps to go through on FCP… needing renders, encoders, compressors, authors ! but with vegas you just whack it in, export it as mpg2, and fire it into architect and voila!

    Due to Mac upgrade, I’m trying to use FCP now. So basically, I have an hour long single piece of footage, on DV PAL, which I captured ok. The file was about 13G (partitioned into 2G parts). I edited it ok, after strugling with transtions up and down dissolve to black?!? and after burning a 8UV choppy version! I have now managed to export a quicktime version using current settings (DV PAL).

    Now this is the thing that bugs me..this is supposed to be the best setting possible, but the file is only 3G.. but why? why not make it closer to the original size and do the squishing in the encoding? It seems there is alot of quality wasted..

    I’d basically just like to get the best possible 1 hour long DV CAM shot footage (DV PAL 48k), onto an 8.5G dual layer disk.. so I can go play my guitar or do something relaxing..

    Why’s it all so complicated? Help please!

    Andy Gunn replied 18 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    July 1, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    Andy,

    Welcome to the Cow and to FCP.

    Exporting the very best QT file possible from the timeline, in fact, one that is identical to your timeline, is very simple. Here goes:

    1) Mark your in at the head and out at the tail of the timeline.

    2) Go to File — Export – Quicktime Movie.

    3) Use “current settings” and make sure that the make movie self-contained box is checked.

    4) Pick a destination so you know where to find the file, such as a drive or even the desktop.

    5. Hit the Save button.

    BINGO!!! You now have the absolute best QT there is, because it matches your timeline.

    Now, if perhaps you didn’t set up your project and timeline properly, you absolutely must watch the following tutorial, or you will be in FCP Hell, forever. https://library.creativecow.net/articles/biscardi_walter/realtime_sequences.php

    Good luck,
    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Tom Wolsky

    July 1, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    “The file was about 13G (partitioned into 2G parts).”

    That’s not a good thing. It usually means your hard drive is not properly formatted, which may be the cause of other problems you’re having. The drive should be formatted for Mac OS Extended.

    “a 8UV choppy version”

    ???

    “but the file is only 3G.. but why? ”

    What file? I have not idea what you’re doing here? How are ou exporting? To QuickTime Movie? Something else? If you want the original DV quality ou exported to QuickTime Movie.

    What are you trying to do? Make a DVD? You export it to QuickTime Movie. You encode it in Compressor. You author it in DVD Studio Pro.

    If you want easy you get Final Cut Express and iDVD.

    BTW, there is an Final Cut Basics forum.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 3.5 HD Editing Workshop”

  • David Roth weiss

    July 1, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    [Tom Wolsky] “BTW, there is an Final Cut Basics forum.”

    Hey Tom, I’m gonna get Cowdog to get you a GPS for your birthday. You were here in Basics all the time…

    BTW, you raised several good questions and I assumed a lot in my answer…

    Your pal David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Andy Gunn

    July 1, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    Uhuh, yep I’m definitely getting there..

    I discovered the uncompressed 10bit setting for sequence.. yeah apple you kept that one quiet..
    and the sneaky quicktime, run at best quality bit..

    and yes the file is now in one piece, I must be thinking of something else..?!?!?

    it’s easy once you know how eh?

    if you like blues n rocknroll, you can check out my previous vegas efforts, and bonafide BBC cameraman vids at our youtube channel-

    http://www.youtube.com/andygitar

    Thanks for the help guys!

  • Andy Gunn

    July 2, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    nope its all still mashed up…

    but I’ve just realised in the settings it needs to be rgb, not 8yuv or any of that jazz.. so thats sorted out the choppy motion..

    I am still getting the quicktime export file in 2G chunks.., strange but when I open it in quicktime it recognizes the whole file, 54 mins or whatever it is..

    man, i’m going to practise on a smaller file till I get this.. this waiting 2 hours to find out I’ve done it wrong again, is doing my napper in!

    thanks anyhow..

    ag

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