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  • Marcus Samuel-gaskin

    September 4, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    YES !

    That is all.

  • Andrew Kimery

    September 4, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “It’s important to consider why (I suspect) this is happening here under BBC adopts FCPX. It’s possible, over time, one may want to switch… and even switch again to yet another down the road. It’s not too difficult to do that on any NLE or Suite except Adobe. You can maintain the legacy apps for as long as you need. Adobe always requires a payment to revisit something. That price may go up. The terms may change. The app availability can be pulled.

    It would be interesting to learn more about why BBC News went with FCP X and and CNN went with Adobe.

  • Andrew Kimery

    September 4, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    [Bret Williams] ” Really, who needs the latest PS or Ai? “

    I think that was a part of Adobe’s problem (the second hand market and people waiting multiple generations to upgrade). With CS5 I think they changed their upgrade plan so that if you skipped a release you had to pay full price again. The video game market where publishers are either trying to get a piece of the used game market or trying to find a way to kill it.

    [Bret Williams] “At least buy FCP X suite now works on 5 machines, and as far as we can tell is $300 for life. So maybe I can’t sell it, but I haven’t had to pay Apple a dime for 3 years unlike FCP legacy.”

    On a related note, can older versions of FCP X be downloaded? I haven’t upgraded to Mavericks and I couldn’t find a way on the App Store to download the previous version of X that doesn’t require Mavericks.

  • David Mathis

    September 4, 2014 at 11:29 pm

    A beer sounds excellent right about now. 🙂

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  • Bret Williams

    September 5, 2014 at 2:23 am

    They didn’t change anything. It’s always been tiered. For example my Master Collection CS5 would cost more to upgrade to CS6 Master Collection tha the CS 5.5 Master Collection. And sometimes it would be the same for an older collection. IOW it was cheaper if you had the most recent collection, and a little more expensive if your collection was a couple versions old, and at some point there wasn’t an upgrade available. But you could certainly skip a couple versions and still upgrade for less than buying every version.

    Not sure if you can download pre-mavericks FCP X. Why can’t you upgrade to Mavericks? I even hacked my 2006 MP to run it. And it’s limit was Lion.

  • Andrew Kimery

    September 5, 2014 at 3:14 am

    [Bret Williams] “. It’s always been tiered. For example my Master Collection CS5 would cost more to upgrade to CS6 Master Collection tha the CS 5.5 Master Collection.”

    The tiering is what they got rid of. If you want an upgrade discount for CS6 you have to own CS5 (or CS5.5 which was an unusual, mid-cycle release). If you want to go from CS4 to CS6 you have to pay full retail. Prior to this policy change upgrade pricing was available back three versions so someone with CS3 could still upgrade to CS6 without having to pay full price.

    [Bret Williams] “Not sure if you can download pre-mavericks FCP X.”

    Up until 10.9.3 Mavericks had GPU driver issues that broke GPU acceleration in PPro and Resolve plus there was nothing ‘must have’ for me in it so I had no compelling reason to upgrade.

  • Bret Williams

    September 5, 2014 at 3:26 am

    That didn’t sound right so I looked it up. There was upgrade pricing to CS6 from CS3 and CS4 throughout 2012. They obviously changed that on January 1 2013 because they knew what they were about to do with CC. They weren’t going to offer a cheap intro CC plan to anyone that hadn’t upgraded in 4 years, since there wouldn’t really be much of a tier to offer. What, $47 a mo instead of $50? They probably did people a service by enticing many to upgrade to the box set of CS6.

  • Andrew Kimery

    September 5, 2014 at 4:20 am

    [Bret Williams] “That didn’t sound right so I looked it up. There was upgrade pricing to CS6 from CS3 and CS4 throughout 2012. “

    So I just looked it up again and apparently in 2011 Adobe announced the ‘old’ upgrade policy was going away but there was so much backlash that they backpedaled. I wasn’t much of an Adobe user back then so I heard about the change in policy but not about the backpedal.

  • James Ewart

    September 5, 2014 at 4:23 am

    Did this new Adobe subscription model appear after the poorly managed FCPX launch?

    Was it a “play” to bury FCP do you think? “You’ve got to come over to us and then we are going to own you” kind of a deal?

  • Tony West

    September 5, 2014 at 4:35 am

    Steve, what happens if internet connection is slow?

    Does it slow down the edit?

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