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  • Banding in Gradients Once Compressed

    Posted by Kristin Russell on June 25, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Hi There,

    I continually have issues with banding in gradients once I compress them but I see projects posted by others that look amazing…how do they achieve this?

    Here are the requested specs:
    Computer: power mac 2×3 ghz quad-core intel xeon, 4 gig 667 mhz ddr2 fb-dimm
    OS: 10.5.8
    Software: AE 9.0.2, Quicktime Pro 7.6.2, Compressor 3.0.5
    Source Codec: Apple Prores 422 (HQ) rendered from R3D files
    Rendered As: Animation setting from AE default
    Export Destination Codec: .h264 or .x264 mov files
    Type of Use: primarily for web, but would also like to resolve issue for DVD as well.
    Progressive download I’m guessing.

    When I export the master file out of AE (animation codec) I have no banding but once compressed I have the issues. I currently use Compressor and downloaded a trial version of Sorenson Squeeze but the issue was even worse. The settings I used in Compressor are:
    H.264
    Key Frame Every 240 Frames
    Quality: Bets
    Multi Pass
    Data Rate: Automatic

    I’ve added noise and variations in color but still see banding when compressing the footage. When I render as an 10 bit animation everything is fine but regardless of how I tweak the compression settings, there’s always banding in the image.

    Here’s a link that shows the banding in the closing end tag:
    https://redgatefilms.com/ending_test_h264.mov

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Thx!

    Rich Rubasch replied 16 years, 2 months ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • Rich Rubasch

    June 27, 2010 at 2:34 am

    Banding can make you crazy! Even national spots on an SD channel feed can have banding.

    Adding noise into the gradient should work however. Instead of using automatic bitrates try varying it a bit and play with the settings more. Also the type of gradient can make a difference, meaning how much the color changes over a given distance.

    It’s part getting the right settings in the render and part setting up the encoder to handle it.

    Rich Rubasch
    Tilt Media Inc.
    Video Production and Post
    Owner/President/Editor/Designer/Animator
    https://www.tiltmedia.com

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