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  • Baffled! Why must PremPro render DV-conform file???

    Posted by Ninetto Makavejev on March 27, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    Greetings,
    this one has got me stumped. I recieved DV-material transfered from Digi-Beta via SDI… the files look and behave like PERFECTLY normal DV-Pal as they should… UNTIL the file is inserted into a PremPro project.

    Premiere shows the timeline with that deadly red stripe, as if the material was NOT DV and requires rendering no matter what!
    So of course I checked the project settings 50x and then checked all info about the file: pixel depth rate, audio sample rate etc. etc. EVERYTHING is just as it should be for a DV-Pal file and for a DV-Project.

    So what does Premiere KNOW that I don’t know? (or what does Premiere know that it won’t TELL me) and WHY-OOH-WHY does Premiere demand to render this file even in its native state?

    Anybody got an idea, suggestion?
    thanks and
    cheers!

    Ce3am1 replied 19 years, 1 month ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Blast1

    March 27, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    There are two types of DV-AVI files Type1, and Type2, you are probably receiving type1 files.

  • Ninetto Makavejev

    March 27, 2007 at 8:55 pm

    Hmmmmm this suggestion surprises me… Aren’t Type2-avis the system of having two files, audio + video separately? I always thought this was just an exotic Matrox/Ulead-kind-of-speiciality that normal humans didn’t deal with…

    Or are type-2 video files also wrapped like type-1 as one file? How can I tell which type I am dealing with? Neither GSpot nor Procoder is telling me anything in this regard…

    So PPro prefers only Type2 Video files?

    regards,
    ninetto m.

  • Ninetto Makavejev

    March 27, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Dear BLAST,
    hats off to you… your comment was right-on-target! The problem was just as you suspected…and I thought I knew a hell of alot about codecs but this one was new to me…

    I converted the avi with a freeware tool from type-1 to type-2 (still not knowing which one I had) and viol

  • Blast1

    March 28, 2007 at 9:08 am

    [ninetto] “But now another query: does that mean that when Premiere is dealing with Type-1 it is automatically doing the same thing as the freeware conversion tool: i.e. converting without loss only the way audio/video are interlaced?”

    DV-AVI Type-II contains a second redundant audio track for compatiblity with older programs that use the “Video For Windows” programming interfaces, Sometimes quoted as DirectShow type2
    DV-AVI Type-I is essentially an exact copy of the data from the mini-DV tape wrapped in an AVI file, DirectShow type1
    Here is a couple of references about this:
    https://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms787833.aspx

    https://www.adamwilt.com/DV-FAQ-editing.html

    There is also a reference to AVI type1 and AVI type2 so don’t confuse yourself with them, AVI Type1 usually refered to a old “Video for Windows”(VFW) codec which had a separate audio stream but had file size limits.
    AVI Type2 refers to DirectShow DV AVI type1/2

  • Ce3am1

    April 8, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    Hi!
    I have another problem
    Affter convertind with Adobe , I have 2 separate files -> Audio and Video. If I want to burn the movie usind NERO – NERO dasn’t accespt Audio file !
    I can’t us the option Export DVD – my button / BURN /is not active :(…
    CE3AM

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