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baffled about doing a specific edit type
Hi all, hope I explain well enough.
I have video on my primary with the associated audio now detached. I want to delete the first 5 frames of video and then slide the clip back to the left so the audio starts at the tail end of the previous clip and my video starts 5 frames later (thus avoiding a little smirk).
So using normal pre-magnetic/sociopathic methods I simply cut the video by 5 frames and then moved the lot to the left 5 frames. Can I do this? can i bugger. The audio is now attached to a bit of slug because that is what replaced the 5 frames of video, trying to move the audio to the primary just disconnects it from the video which is shunted after the audio.
I can make a compound clip but then have to attach it to the previous clip in the primary just to make it do what I want, plus I don’t want to have all the elements of that clip squashed into a single compound clip – i want all my elements visible and workable.
i don’t know, from where i’m standing at the moment this is kind of real pish. Why is something so simple made so complex? I get the magnetic timeline on the whole – not really a new paradigm, just a different thing that pushes my clips around without my saying so – but it just seems to cause more hassle than it circumnavigates. I go ‘oooh, that was useful’ far less than ‘WTF? Did no one use this in a real environment before finalising the design decisions’.
So, foaming at the mouth aside, if anyone gets what I am trying to do and knows a way of doing it other than this annoying compound squashing method, please let me know. Otherwise, thanks anyway, venting at least lowers the blood pressure.
FCPX – 2 steps forward, 2 steps back, does a little shimmy but i wanted it to do a swoosh
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If I get what you’re saying, you want to add a split edit by using 5 frames of video from the outgoing clip to cover the first 5 frames of the incoming clip?
If so, select both clips, hit control-s, select the video cut point only and hit the period 5 times.
You don’t need to detach audio for this.
Is that what you mean?
Jeremy
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Just stop fighting it so much.
Look up (studying it for yourself will help you learn HOW to find this kind of information and suppress future impatience, IMO) the Precision Editor functions built into X.
With it, split edits are incredibly simple for all circumstances whether it’s a clip leading to another clip or a standalone piece of video.
Jeremy’s solution works well but presumes you’re a full time editor who values efficiency and deep understanding of all of X’s keystroke equivalents – which is superb if you’re editing all day every day – but not always necessary if you just need to get a simple J or L cut done.
Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.
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Cheers J, will try it tomorrow, sounds like what I am after.
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20 months on, still racking up those thumbs down Bill.
Ever stopped to wonder why?
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[Julian Bowman] “20 months on, still racking up those thumbs down Bill.
Ever stopped to wonder why?
“You attract Bill’s attention when you vent!
Jeremy’s answer is correct, that’s all you need to do, it’s a very useful function in FCPX.
I’m honestly not being snarky or condescending but all this stuff is very well contained in Ripple Training, it might help keep your blood pressure down at the very least.
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure” -
[Julian Bowman] “Cheers J, will try it tomorrow, sounds like what I am after.”
Comma and period will trim by one frame.
Add shift and it will get you 5 frames.
I hope teaching keyboard shortcuts is OK. I find them more accurate, not elitest.
Brackets and backslash select which side of the cut you want to effect.
Shift bracket will select audio only(very useful as then you don’t have to do the extra step of expanding).
The precision is fine (control-e, or double click a cut) but I find it is unnecessary for this type of edit and doesn’t really add any hyper useful feedback.
The comma/period shortcuts remain in the precision editior, you still have to expand audio and video (control-s) or as Bill might prefer, Clip menu > Expand Audio/Video. If you don’t expand, you’ll trim both audio and video.
Or double clicking a clip will expand it, but that might still be, as Bill says, too “full time editor” advanced for you.
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Am I missing something? Isn’t it as simple as moving the connection point?
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You can do that too (option-command click).
My point was saying that you don’t need to detach audio for a split edit.
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Nope.
I see you’ve made about 37 Cow posts to date.
I’ve done a middling 2400 or so.
Which means absolutely nothing except I’ve put my ideas out a LOT right here for people to critique – for good or ill.
And suspect my thumbs up to thumbs down ratio is probably just fine – tho I’ll admit I’ve never taken the time to figure out how to even LOOK at that.
You want to come in and blurt about what’s so terrible about the software with all your deep understanding about how screwed up it is – feel free. I think it takes some stones to claim you have more wisdom about NLE design than the guy who was a central design driver for THREE of the most successful NLE endeavors in the history of editing – but whatever.
It MIGHT be better to wait a bit until you actually know how it works a bit more fully – but that’s for you to decide.
I tried to point out two practical strategies that would actually help you – A) study the software more before you issue opinions – and B) learn about the Precision Editor.
You don’t want to do that – fine.
No skin off my nose.
Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.
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If you want to really do it FCP 7 style, expand both clips (on my system I don’t have to select anything as I mapped shift+E to expand all clips, and shift+cmd+E to collapse all) and use the T tool (the equivalent of the R tool in legacy) to select the video edit point and roll it left or right. You can drag or use the <>(comma, period) keys like Jeremy suggests. Unfortunately you can’t do the same for some reason to select the audio edit point. The only way to do that is place the playhead there and press shift+\, and even then you can’t drag it with the mouse. You can only use <> or shift <>. A note on the T tool (and others) – you don’t have to switch to the T tool. Just hold it down. When you release, it will go back to the A tool or whatever you were using previous.
Legacy really has one up on X in this aspect. No expanding necessary and no placing the playhead anywhere special and you can drag either the video or audio all ya want. If you work with linked selection on, you would simply use the R tool and option drag the audio or video edit point. If you don’t use linked selection, you would simply use the R tool to roll either without option. So simple. It sounds like you may have been doing this the hard way in legacy as well from your original post
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