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  • Posted by David Eells on October 17, 2006 at 7:31 pm

    OK, so I posted earlier about having difficulties capturing DV-PAL footage from a DSR11. I know the deck works, because it plays NTSC footage and I get a display in the Capture window. When I play a PAL tape, I still have deck control, but no video. The tape has a signal because I can monitor it (sort of) in a line monitor. And I’m using the DV-PAL easy setup, with a PAL sequence.

    Now I have a Sony J30-SDI with a firewire output and some PAL beta tapes.I’m still in the DV-PAL easy setup. I can see the PAL video in the capture window, but Final Cut chokes when when I try and capture. Presumably I’m getting 8-bit video through a firewire pipe and even though I can see it I can’t capture it.

    I’m just a poor freelancer in a corporate facility trying to please the client and looking for a workaround.

    Sure could use some help here….

    Paul Dickin replied 19 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    October 17, 2006 at 7:40 pm

    On the back of the DSR-11, there’s an NTSC/PAL switch. Did you change it to PAL?

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  • David Eells

    October 17, 2006 at 8:27 pm

    Yes, I switched it in the back, although my understanding is that it autoselects between PAL and NTSC.

    What’s working for the moment is to capture the PAL footage using Roxio Easy Media Creator and then import those clips into Final Cut. Roxio makes avi files, but Final Cut recognizes them as PAL-DV. Not ideal, but acceptable if there’s nothing better.

  • David Eells

    October 17, 2006 at 8:28 pm

    Yes, I switched it in the back, although my understanding is that it autoselects between PAL and NTSC.

    What’s working for the moment is to capture the PAL footage using Roxio Easy Media Creator and then import those clips into Final Cut. Roxio makes avi files, but Final Cut recognizes them as PAL-DV. Not ideal, but acceptable if there’s nothing better.

  • Andy Mees

    October 18, 2006 at 1:43 am

    [Budrick21] “Now I have a Sony J30-SDI with a firewire output and some PAL beta tapes.I’m still in the DV-PAL easy setup. I can see the PAL video in the capture window, but Final Cut chokes when when I try and capture. Presumably I’m getting 8-bit video through a firewire pipe and even though I can see it I can’t capture it.”

    the J30 is putting out DV through the i-Link port so the capture should work as intended.
    can you verify your capture settings for us, and also check what disc your are capturing to (in your Log nd Capture window under the Capture Settings tab … you’re looking for your “Capture/Input” setting and your “Scratch Disks…” setting)

  • Michael Gissing

    October 18, 2006 at 2:57 am

    I am PAL but occassionally capture NTSC from a J3. I also capture 108060i from a JH3. However, I use SDI, not firewire. There is a problem though if I am using PAL reference signals into my machines when running NTSC. Check that you aren’t inputting an NTSC signal into the J3 or DSR reference/input. It slews the machine and FCP can’t get a timecode lock for capture

  • Paul Dickin

    October 18, 2006 at 8:42 am

    Hi
    There is a little routine to go through when this sort of thing happens – I switch between PAL and NTSC DV via FW from a DSR-11 and a J-30 regularly.

    It is necessary to make sure that Mac OS X is corectly configured, which means checking that the DSR or J-30 is in the correct mode, powered up with FW lead connected, then booting up (or restarting) the Mac.
    Then FCP can be opened, and Log and Capture should then behave correctly.
    (If not use FCP Rescue to Trash preferences, switch everything off (decks as well) then retry).

    CAUTION: Two different J030 decks fried the front FW port of a G5 Dual 2.5 and a G5 Dual 2.7 by being switched off (with their mains switch) whilst connected to the powered up Mac’s front FW port. So far this hasn’t happened to the rear FW port (or the hub in the Cinema Display 23″)…

  • David Eells

    October 18, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    Hi Andy

    Thanks for the response. I was capturing to an internal HD designated for media, and I tried using the DV-PAL, DV-PAL Basic and and DV50 PAL and 8-bit PAL. For all but the 8-bit PAL I could see but not capture. I wasn’t giving the J30 a reference signal at all – it’s a rental so it’s going back today.

  • David Eells

    October 18, 2006 at 2:53 pm

    Paul –

    Thanks for the tip. I’ll try that later today.

  • David Eells

    October 18, 2006 at 2:53 pm

    Paul –

    Thanks for the tip. I’ll try that later today.

  • Paul Dickin

    October 18, 2006 at 3:56 pm

    Hi
    Is the J-30 is correctly switched via its menu #13 NTSC/PAL 525/625 setting?

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