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  • Bad audio_Ouch

    Posted by Sherwood Ball on November 27, 2006 at 12:59 am

    We turned a short film into a documentary using clips of interviews that were originally intended for only research.
    My producer just did run and gun interviews without any attention to
    the ambient competition to the dialog.

    Unfortunately, there’s too much ambient talking.

    I’ve tried the ZNoise Waves and Soundsoap programs, but they work
    for pretty much constant noise, not so much random voices.

    It’s almost like someone needs to create a program that shows
    audio as painted signals graphically where you could paint/erase out
    the randomity.

    It’s pretty much hopeless, unless anyone here knows of a special app
    that is more finite in it’s controls.

    HELP!

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    John Fishback replied 19 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Thaxter Clavemarlton

    November 27, 2006 at 3:03 pm

    An audio wave IS generally “random” by nature (unless its a “tone”).

    Audio properties can be divided/isolated by “units” of similar frequency, amplitude, or repetitive patterns.

    But trying to isolate two or more very similar “patterns” (such as multiple voices) on the same clip is virtually impossible (in spite of what they routinely accomplish with sliding two knobs on “CSI: Your Town Here” every week.)

  • Sherwood Ball

    November 27, 2006 at 6:13 pm

    Very funny.

    Common sense dictates that if there are two sounds at the same time,
    filtering and phasing would still be a difficult if not impossible task.

    I was hoping that the CIA or FBI would have some fabulous algorhythm
    that we don’t know about. Ha!!!

    Polishing proverbial turds.
    Get it right in the first place. ;-o

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    PS CS2, AE CS2

  • Mike Cohen

    November 29, 2006 at 10:16 pm

    you need to use that same machine which takes a grainy camera phone picture, zooms in like in Blade Runner, and prints out a crystal clear image, and then instantly matches each face in the picture with the interpol database of photos. Have you noticed that all of this bogus image and sound processing is done with lots of typing and beeping – I guess a mouse is not as dramatic.

  • Sherwood Ball

    November 30, 2006 at 6:46 pm

    Ah….Poetic license.
    I come from a record and commercial production audio background, but also
    make films.

    I directed a feature film called, Love.com, back in the days of lo-speed
    internet and the clicking of a mouse was just too passive, but we focused on
    the graphics on the screen. FBI monitoring the entire internet on one screen. Ha! Put the “fear of god” into the lamen. NOT!
    ’98-’99 www was still a brave new world.

    Now in the final stages of a documentary where much of the interview footage
    was intended for research for a theatrical screenplay, but the true story
    was more interesting than the factional screenplay.

    Can’t really loop an elder in Oklahoma.
    I’ll do some ducking around her vocal waveform and then fill in another
    track of ambience to mask the ambient level changes.

    All seriousness aside, ha!
    I love that phrase.
    A visual graphic based paint program where ambient frequencies..e.g.
    external voices, spikey hits that run parallel to the dialog
    could be painted out. Obviously the interface of painting out dif colored
    audio randomity would be the easy part of creating such a program.

    Is there a high end theatrical app from Dolby or someone?

    Thnx.

  • Will Salley

    December 1, 2006 at 3:31 pm

    I guess rubberbanding in Pro Tools is as close as it gets.

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  • Sherwood Ball

    December 1, 2006 at 6:23 pm

    Yep. Except I can do the same in Logic, my main scoring app.
    Thnx.

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    6G Ram OSX 4.8
    Sata drives
    Final Cut Studio 5.1.1, Logic Audio 7.1
    PS CS2, AE CS2

  • John Fishback

    December 9, 2006 at 8:38 pm

    Check out https://www.algorithmix.com/en/renovator.htm

    John

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