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  • Backing up a project

    Posted by Pat Furrie on April 7, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Quick version of question:
    How do you backup a project — including all the media — to some removable external storage?

    Long version of question:
    Our production department had been using local storage as well as Isis storage (but no Interplay login) for a year. Things were working ok. When they’d finish up with a client, the project with all of the captured media would be moved into a seperate folder on an external USB drive using MDV Avid Media Mover. The producer loved this, as it worked, was simple, was easy to get all the stuff from a single project, and was easy to restore it.

    They’ve finally decided to join the rest of the staff and embrace Interplay. This means the the PMR files are no longer used on Isis (and have been deleted). The MDV Media Mover program uses the PMR file to determine what’s what in the various media folders, so that method is sunk. It doesn’t know anything about dealing with the Interplay database.

    I’ve looked at the consolidate function, but it doesn’t seem straightforward, and I’m having difficulty understanding how it might be used in such a workflow. We don’t want to consolidate the sequence, only the media, as we want to keep all of it (not just the media used in the sequence). And even if we did go that route, how does one bring the project back into the system?

    We’re using Avid NewsCutter Adrenalines, version 6.7.7. I’ve done searches on CreativeCOW, Avid’s forums, and the NewsCutter help files, trying to find something(the concept seems very basic, so we imagine plenty of people would have wanted and needed to do this).

    Thanks

    Pat Furrie
    WESH/WKCF, Orlando

    Rob Cross replied 17 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Grinner Hester

    April 8, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    firewire drives are really cheap now and by far the easiest way to back up a project and it’s media. Most of the time, you can bill the client for the drive.
    used just as storage, this is where it’s at right now.

  • Pat Furrie

    April 8, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Thanks. We have plenty of external drives, but what we don’t have is a *process* to seperate just one project’s set of data off of the Unity Isis box (being managed by Interplay), and then to restore it later. Basically, somthing akin to how the “Media Mover” software works, but workable for an Isis networked media environment (where no PMR files are present).

    I’ve heard that one way to do this is to consolidate the data to the external drive, and then back again to restore. But my understanding is that the consolidate process changes the name of the media files or master clips (adds either a “new” or “old” designation to them), and don’t know how this affects the whole process.

    Pat Furrie
    WESH-TV, Orlando

  • Michael Hancock

    April 8, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Consolidating an actual media clip simply copies it to the location you choose (in this case, an external), and creates a new master clip that is linked to either the original media or the copy. You decide which when you consolidate.

    The fact that the new masterclip has New or Old associated with it doesn’t matter. You can choose whichever masterclip you want and Relink it to the media by pointing to the drive it’s on.

    You say you’re on Unity with Interplay, right? I’m not familiar with the Unity system and how it handles media management, but you could import some throwaway clips and test it. Just capture/import some throwaway clips, consolidate the media to an external drive, delete it off your Unity, then consolidate it back to see if it relinks. Make a quick sequence too to see if it relinks to that. If it works, consolidate away.

    If it doesn’t work…let us know. Maybe we can figure something else out.

    Michael.

  • Rob Cross

    December 3, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    Blast from the past reviving this old thread but I’m having the same issues here. I understand everything about consolidating and have got all the media files & project folder on a removable drive. Everything that used to involve this project is now completely gone from the avid unity…so….
    I go into my projects and copy the project folder over, thats easy. The confusing part to me is here to move the media clips, or really how to tell the avid where to look for files. I go and copy all the media files over to the Network Drive I want them in/avidmediafilews/mxf/ and then there are 5 folders for each of the 5 PCs on unity. I pout them in the folder for my PC, I don’t know if that matters where they go. Now how does Avid know to connect the two together? I open up the project now and there are no clips/sequences in there. The Files were put back on the same Network drive, but if they weren’t would this make a difference? Is there somthing in the settings files that should point to the media files? What am I missing here?

    Thanks!

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