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Bill Davis
January 27, 2016 at 8:06 pmI’d agree with Jeremy on this.
Phil, you were frustrated because X was screwing with your focus. We get that.
Jeremy and I (and others) would tell you that if you ever get to the point where you understand X at the same level of detail you knew your other NLE tools – you’d find that your work will actually be much easier. Not more difficult.
This is the extremely common story from almost all editors coming from other software who make the transition. I don’t know a single editor who has actually made the mental journey into X expertise who isn’t extremely pleased that they have.
That’s all.
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Andy Field
January 28, 2016 at 12:18 amBill has spoken! if he doesn’t need or use it …no one does — move along!
Andy Field
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Bill Davis
January 29, 2016 at 6:03 pmHow about…
Dear scores of readers out there…
You got angry andys opinion that everyone needs what HE needs
And you’ve got Pollyanna Bills opinion that everyone should be as happy as himAnd now each editor gets to decide for him or herself what THEY need and pick a path.
You get to hate it and tell everyone they should hate it just like you do.
And I get to like it and tell everyone that they should like it – just like me.Then we let THEM decide.
That said, I categorically refuse to wear a “Haley Mills” blond wig whilst arguing. That’s non-negotiable.
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Andy Field
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John Rofrano
January 29, 2016 at 10:35 pm[Bill Davis] “And now each editor gets to decide for him or herself what THEY need and pick a path.”
~jr
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Jeremy Garchow
January 29, 2016 at 10:44 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5y68ErffgM
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Craig Alan
January 31, 2016 at 6:52 pmBoth and not either or. Fcp x evolved the browser to fit the fast and loose run and gone cameras are everywhere a zillion takes and angles are cheap work flow. But old school work flow which starts on the page not only has advantages but should be rediscovered. Too many projects are visual eye candy with as much nutritional value as any sugar product.
Not everyone will agree but I think magnetism is a huge evolutionary step beyond snapping for those that like to arrange/experiment on the timeline for these newer workflows. But sub clips were favorites in a less evolved state. And the timeline having fixed positions in time had advantages as well as disadvantages. Any program can create any of these projects.
I would love to see Apple continue to add -not change for change sake- new features specifically for different needs. And to enhance the effects/inspector/timeline to work more ergonomically which I think they are doing but rather slowly as of late.
I think it would be very cool to have both custom and presets for window layouts. Apple is pretty great at coming up with clean interfaces. How about one tailored to color correction, audio, for working on a single clip, (without turning it into its own timeline), etc. I think it could have a great future; but I am concerned that apple doesn’t care that much and could dump it in 5 years for something new and shiney.
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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Bill Davis
January 31, 2016 at 8:51 pm[Craig Alan] “I think it could have a great future; but I am concerned that apple doesn’t care that much and could dump it in 5 years for something new and shiney.”
Well, won’t whether and/or if they dump it depend (at least in part) on how much the underlying technology changes?
10 years ago I was still mastering to plastic discs and plastic tapes. Just in the past 2 years or so have my clients – many in major companies – FINALLY stopped asking me to burn DVDs and mail them out for tradeshow playback.
If I flip that around, I wonder what the technologists inside companies like Apple and Google etc – see even 5 years downstream? Perhaps the idea of local installed software will start to seem silly. If you simply have a fast internet connection and appropriate hookups – EVERY tool we now have in our software today will just live on the cloud and be constantly accessible to everyone. It’s a crapshoot. Will the fact that Adobe went subscription early make them a leader, or will they have to contend with somebody like BlackMagic providing nearly the exact same capabilities, but for FREE.
Is Apple right to have re-created the NLE? Looking back, the biggest change was probably going from software that was a 20lb box full of plastic and paper – and having pro software delivered to you nearly instantly in exchange for a credit card number and a click.
Again, we’re still living in an era where things are still MASSIVELY shifting. Old skills like a head full of expertise about tungsten lighting and VHF radio mics – just aren’t as valuable anymore.
Who knows where we will be in 5 years?
Maybe there will be kids looking at ANYONE who uses ANY of this software and shakes their head in wonder – probably while they use the $.99 InstaCapProDirectorPadCam App (with auto edit!) to reach an audience of six million every Friday night.
One way or another, it’s gonna be lots of fun finding out!
My 2 cents.
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Scott Witthaus
February 2, 2016 at 12:57 pm[Craig Alan] “Our classes are only an hour per day and I can teach FCP X basics in very short order. “
I am always amazed in how quickly students pick X up. Yesterday, in my second class of the semester, I told 35 skeptical grad students (average age: 25) that they would be editing in just under 3 hours (a portion of the three hours is used showing them how to access Terrablock partitions, music library, ftp, etc). I had about 6 of the 35 who had used Premiere before. I used about an hour to walk them through the process of importing footage, interface, basic edit commands, color, sound effects, music and output. After about 90 minutes every one of them had completed the task and had a lot of fun doing it. Four of the six Premiere users commented that X was much better for them (I found myself defending Premiere!). It’s just really cool how the non-track-baked brain approaches the task uses the software. Apple has done something very right and I hope they continue to support the software. These students are now required to finish the Lynda FCPX Essentials class in two weeks and it will be again interesting to see where they are after that.
Scott Witthaus
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Craig Alan
February 2, 2016 at 7:06 pm[Scott Witthaus] “Four of the six Premiere users commented that X was much better for them (I found myself defending Premiere!). “
Yeah it also points to what I find: that people that know how to edit have an easier time learning FCP X then people who don’t. Liking it depends on their workflow and needs.
[Scott Witthaus] ” Apple has done something very right and I hope they continue to support the software.”
That’s my concern. Will they? And their secretive nature is not helpful. And their history for EOLing stuff without more communication and support is troubling. Imagine if they had released FCP X by saying up front that it was a work in progress and although they would not continue to update FCP 7 they would add support for new codecs and that 7 would work on the same system drive as X and 7 would work on the next several OS releases. (which actually turned out to be the case). Sure there would still be this debate but it would feel certain that going into FCP X was the path of the future and would remain supported. I still think Apple could improve its respect by being more transparent and communicative. $300 was a lot of money for a beta release. $300 for every release up to the latest version has been the greatest deal in NLE history. But no way to know this. In fact I paid for a site license to keep OS X and FCP X up to date only to learn by years end that I paid for nothing cause both, Apple decided, would be for free. They gave a partial refund starting on the date that they made that decision. Not too generous considering it was a school. And it took I can’t tell you how many phone calls to get it since no body at Apple knew. And then they gave it to the entire school system and I never got it for my program, even though it was grant money that paid for it.
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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