Back to FCPX From PP (Rant)

[Tero Ahlfors]

Sounds like you might got some deeper problems with your computer.

[Steve Connor]

[Lillian Young] “I do not want to go back to FCP X. It feels amateur after using Premiere”

I think you may get a little heat for that statement.

[Lillian Young]

I’m using it on 3 different computers. A Mac Pro from 2008 (Mavericks), MacBook Pro from 2012 (El Capitan) and a Mac Pro from 2015 (Mavericks).

I don’t see how it’s the machine. Also, enough people have had the same issue.

I’m just starting my new projects in anything but Premiere.

[Lillian Young]

So be it. It’s a rant and that’s how I feel. I’m paying $50/month for Premiere when I could be pirating it instead like many do.

Every non-editor I meet uses FCPX. I’ve defended FCPX and use it for quick, private projects. But it’s iMovie + Motion, basically.

And I specifically posted this in the “FCPX or Not: The Debate” forums.

[Oliver Peters]

I would agree that there’s something wrong with your systems. I can’t say what it would be, but I’ve worked on a number of different systems with Premiere and have had no such issue. That being said I just wrapped up a job last week that got real unstable in the multicam view. Hadn’t run into that before and I suspect something’s weird in that particular project, since it was started last year and gone through a few Premiere updates.

As far as FCPX being amateur. Hmm… what can I say? I’ve done a lot of fairly complex jobs with X and its feature set has been fine. As I type this, I’m currently exporting master files for a film with DME splits. Doing that with stems and roles is far easier than doing it in Premiere. Just setting up the output audio matrix in PPro is rocket science. 🙂

But if neither Premiere nor FCPX are to your liking, I would strongly recommend Avid Media Composer. Rock solid and very pro.

Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Lillian Young]

I’ve hopped over to Avid some and may re-consider when time allows me to really learn it.

I don’t understand how something can be wrong with multiple systems, but I do see how something can be wrong with one project given multiple Premiere Pro updates.

Thanks for your feedback. I am still upset and expressing myself from that position of frustration, but plan to try contacting Adobe tomorrow to hopefully avoid having to go to my office just to use Premiere.

[Oliver Peters]

It’s possible that if these systems have gone through multiple updates without a clean install, that something has become corrupt somewhere. I’ve also run into Premiere crashes when a GPU card was getting wonky.

Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[David Mathis]

If for every time I had $10 after hearing X is a toy scenario well I would be rich. 🙂

I used to think it was a toy but it is not. It has become my tool of choice with Resolve a very close second. Sure there can be some stuff that can be improved but overall a solid tool. The timeline gets out of my way, no worrying about clip collisions and all the organization tools are a bonus. Off my soap box.

I said trim dang it!

[Craig Alan]

[Lillian Young] “But it’s iMovie + Motion, basically. “

Have you seriously used iMovie? It’s ain’t no FC Express. or Adobe Premiere Elements for that matter.

That said, I do like how you can a swap the location of the timeline and event windows with a really cool animation effect. Wonderful time killer when you realize that your movie looks like some amateur Utube video that any child could produce.

Have you tried the Cloud-Bill-Monthly forum here on the cow? Maybe someone could help there.

Last time I looked they even had an Adobe rep answering posts.

Seriously, I think if you want to stay with Adobe the problem is treatable. But if you want to rant, you’ve come to right place.

Here’s a debate forum hint: it’s far more effective to call someone else an amateur for choosing FCP X than to call FCP X a toy.

Most of the users here have forgiven Apple for dumping legacy. I haven’t. But now that I know X, I would be equally pissed if Apple EOLed it and came out with FCP 8. But I’m from NY. I don’t want LA celebrity pizza. I want NY Italian pizza that folds with one hand.

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[Andrew Kimery]

[Lillian Young] ”
I don’t understand how something can be wrong with multiple systems, but I do see how something can be wrong with one project given multiple Premiere Pro updates. “

If it’s the same project(s) that is wonky on all the machines then it could be something wrong with the project. FWIW, over the past 2-3yrs I’ve used PPro on 6 different machines that are across the board in ages (09 MP, ’11 MBP, nMP, etc.,) and I haven’t experienced what you are describing.

Sometimes if I feel like a project is starting to get wonky (crashing, feeling sluggish, etc.,) I’ll create a new project and import the ‘problem’ project into the new project. In my experience that usually does a good job of cleaning out any sort of under-the-hood ‘clutter’ that might gumming up the works in PPro.

-Andrew