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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy “AVOID XDCAM like the PLAGUE for editing on timeline!”

  • Jason Porthouse

    September 16, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    [walter biscardi] “You would think Sony would want to make XDCAM as easy to work with to sell more cameras to FCP users….. “

    Absolutely. I can’t see any of the post houses or independent production companies ditching FCP because XDCam doesn’t play nicely, moving to Vegas or Edius- but I can see them moving to a different acquisition format to make life easier. If Sony harbours any notions that they’ll somehow corner market share they’re going about it in entirely the wrong way. But Sony have always had a funny relationship with NLEs – it’s almost as if, following the demise of the linear suites and the ubiquity of 910s and 9100s they’ve never really gotten the changing world of editing. Their turnkey NLE was a case in point – basically a FAST 601/Silver with many of the functions hobbled, as far as I remember.

    Ahh well, maybe one day they’ll learn!

    Jason

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  • Rafael Amador

    September 16, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    I agree with the consideration of Walter and you about that the format is not getting the due support by SONY.
    I don’t I agree the considerations around the codec. The codec is just MPEG-2 and SONY is not the proprietor. In fact when in the Info Window of any clip you get “Apple XDCAM EX”.
    There are also some other systems using the same codec, For example the XDR and NANO-Flash. They just call him MPEG-2 Long GOPs.
    As I said many times, I’m having no problems at all. I work in a MBP and in a G5 (late 2004).
    I’m in PAL-land, so maybe, as you say, is a NTSC-land only issue.
    CHeers,
    rafael

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  • Dave Jenkins

    September 16, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    I edit EX 1080 30P 35VBR all the time and never get any crashes on an Octo 2.8 with 8 gigs of ram. It sounds like corrupt media files. How did you transfer the media? Did you use the Transfer software or the log and transfer plug in?

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  • Philip Owens

    September 16, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    I’m working on 23.98 XDCAM EX. As to importing, both Sony’s own XDCAM Transfer software and Import directly into FCP has been done.

    Today I’ve hit a new problem – I cannot export my timeline. Tried twice last night and it gets half way through then collapses in a heap with the ‘Out of memory’ error. The machine has 14GB RAM and tons of swap space available. This was the only timeline open (it’s 80 mins long), the timeline was fully rendered in ProRes first, and the machine was freshly restarted before trying each time. Any takers?

    I hate this format!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 16, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    [Philip Owens] ” Any takers? “

    You aren’t going to like this, but I would delete all your render files, rerender and start again.

    Jeremy

  • Philip Owens

    September 16, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “You aren’t going to like this, but I would delete all your render files, rerender and start again. “

    Did that. Both times. Agh!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 16, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    OK. Is it getting caught up at the same point every time? If so, see where that place is in your timeline, and then find the media associated with it. Could be corrupt.

    Jeremy

  • Philip Owens

    September 16, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “OK. Is it getting caught up at the same point every time? If so, see where that place is in your timeline, and then find the media associated with it. Could be corrupt. “

    Yeah, that’s the next challenge. I ran this export before I left for the night, and again remotely this morning, so I didn’t get to see the stage of the export that it gets to when it trips out. Guess I’ll just have to sit around the next time. Lovely.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 16, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    [Philip Owens] “Lovely.”

    That’s one way to put it.

  • Walter Biscardi

    September 16, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    [Philip Owens] “Yeah, that’s the next challenge. I ran this export before I left for the night, and again remotely this morning, so I didn’t get to see the stage of the export that it gets to when it trips out. Guess I’ll just have to sit around the next time. Lovely.”

    Export it in smaller chunks. That’s all I can suggest. Maybe it will hit that point where it chokes and then at least you’ll have an idea of where the problem is.

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