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  • Avid Xpress, Mojo and DVC PRO HD

    Posted by Mike Schmitt on December 12, 2005 at 7:23 am

    WHat’s the deal? I currently use Premiere and am willing to move to Avid Xpress. I took some classes so I know the basics.

    Is anyone out there using this for DVC Pro or DVC Pro HD yet? How much render time are you seeing?

    I’ve got a Dell dual 3.2 Xeon with 4 Gigs of RAM and a NVIDIA QuadroFX 3000 AGP card.

    Love to hear how it’s working for you ENG Guys.

    Joe Womble replied 20 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Alex Alexzander

    December 12, 2005 at 2:03 pm

    I’ve been wanting to see some benchmarks in this area myself. Perhaps we could get a few to test a common small project. If someone wants to build a small project, and move it to a blank DVD-R, would could do some testing on various machines using the common media DVD-R so that all are using the exact same timeline.

    Anyone feel like building a small timeline with some effects that would fit on a DVD-R? It would have to be small, but still contain DVCPro 100 HD, and HDV video on it.

    I’ve seen this done for after effects, and it really helps the group out. I’d be happy to distribute the DVD-R to those that want to test it, and report back the numbers. I could even keep a running web page of the hardware and the results each user gets. I could add a way to order the DVD-R to those interested for their own testing. I think I could mail a DVD-R around the US for about a $1.50 a DVD-R which includes the cost of the DVD-R. I’d be willing to do that for free.

    -Alex

  • Joe Womble

    December 13, 2005 at 6:13 pm

    What kind of rendering are you talking about? Xpress Pro HD captures and edits DVCPro and DVCPro HD natively, so no rendering there.

    Rendering time on effects using this footage are not different from effects on SD footage, for the most part.

    Cre8tive

  • Mike Schmitt

    December 14, 2005 at 7:56 pm

    After Effects and Adobe products don’t support DVCPRO or DVCPRO HD.

    I do a lot of work in After Effects.

    MY workflow would be to edit in Avid then move over to After Effects and I would rather keep it in DVC Pro.

    So what I guess I was asking is: IF you are editing in Avid a project in DVCPRO HD, how do you get it into After Effects without rendering an uncompressed file that Tarabytes in size.

  • Joe Womble

    December 15, 2005 at 3:13 am

    Mike,

    Send over a QT reference file. That way, it takes up a small amount of room basically pointing back to the Avid files. Do you use QT reference with your AE projects now?

    Cre8tive

  • Mike Schmitt

    December 15, 2005 at 7:12 am

    The deal is that I’m a Premiere user, too, and Panasonic hasn’t as of yet sold Adobe the codec.

    The only PC Programs that edit DVCPRO and DVCPRO HD is Canopus Edius (which can also have an accelerator card) and Avid Xpress.

    If you buy a Matrox Axio sytem for about 15,000.00, you can edit DVCPRO in Premiere.

    Problem at this time is that even if you edit with Avid or Edius or even Premiere with Axio, you cannot import the the DVCPRO file into After Effects.

    If you have a fast, dual Xeon system, render time shouldn’t be that bad, if not in real time for editing.

  • Mike Schmitt

    December 15, 2005 at 7:16 am

    SOrry, I don’t have a reference file for you yet. The camera hasn’t been released yet.

    Look up the )Panasonic HVX200 and you’ll see the camera I’m talking about. It is very sweet.

  • Joe Womble

    December 15, 2005 at 5:48 pm

    I did a test for you.

    Exported a 10 second clip shot 720p from Avid as a QT Movie (does not allow QT Reference). The resulting file was 109 MB in size. Took about 20 seconds to export.

    Opened it in After Effects. Applied a filter. Rendered out an .avi at best settings. Resulting file was 650 MB in size. Took 1 minute, 23 seconds to render.

    Played it back. Looks terrific. Imported it back into Avid. Took 35 seconds to import. Plays back with no problems. Looks just like the original only with an effect.

    Regards,

    Cre8tive

  • Mike Schmitt

    December 15, 2005 at 6:19 pm

    Was your original footage DVCPRO or DVCPRO HD?

  • Joe Womble

    December 15, 2005 at 7:07 pm

    DVC PPO HD from the new JVC camera.

    Cre8tive

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