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Avid Workflow using AMA
Posted by Eric Santiago on July 26, 2011 at 1:59 pmDoes anyone here have any tips and tricks on editing AMA in Avid MC then round-tripping to Resolve 8 using R3D clips?
I tried AAF but cant seem to get past the link error.
Avid throws out an error that AAF does not support linking with AMA?
Im trying to stay within the R3D world and a bit confused on what RCX’s part is on the whole workflow.
Do I avoid RCX all together and color in Resolve?
How do most do it?
Steps would be nice 🙂Marcin Zwolski replied 13 years, 5 months ago 2 Members · 12 Replies -
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Eric Santiago
July 26, 2011 at 4:01 pmGot a tip from a fellow REDUser to turn on “Use AAF Protocol”.
This helped get my clips out using AAF.
Got to open the AAF in Resolve and did some basic CC.
Now I rendered it out and cant seem to figure how to bring it back in to Avid using MXF.
I placed them in the Avid MediaFiles and tried using MediaTools.
They dont seem to want to import.
Anyone have a clue? -
Eric Santiago
July 26, 2011 at 4:22 pmTried the ALE route for the first time.
So far all I can do is crash the ALE app trying to convert the exported ALE file from Resolve. -
Marcin Zwolski
July 26, 2011 at 5:46 pmBe sure you select correct drive within Media Tool (I assume you put graded files in MXF folder)
Put graded clips in new bin
To relink graded clips to sequence created on AVID during AAF export make sure source files in AVID and those from Resolve ones have the same info in… Tape column.
Select graded clips, then your sequence, choose Relink and check “Select items in ALL open bins” (this allows you to link sequence from one bin to clips in another, unless you put everything in one bin).
Hit OK.
Hope this works,
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Eric Santiago
July 26, 2011 at 6:50 pmThanks Marcin for the reply.
I might have gone the wrong route out of Avid.
The files are AMA linked to R3D data sitting in a folder top root of the Avid media drive.
I didnt transcode or consolidate (you cant with R3D).
Took two simple clips and added a crossover for the test.
Exported as AAF.
Brought into Resolve and quickly re-linked the R3D to another version sitting on a diff drive/worsktation (this is the workflow we want to work for us).
Did some quick Power Windows and CC.
Then rendered using Source > render clip with unique file name.
Now it rendered the MXF filename almost exact as original R3D with the exception that the original R3D had numerical digits at the end of the name.
The amount of characters stop at 10 and these R3D are 20 characters long.
I sure hope thats not the problem. -
Marcin Zwolski
July 26, 2011 at 9:00 pmAMA detects folders named with RMD and RDC and files named .R3D. So, if you retain proper magazine/folder structure
(Your HD)/camera+reel_date.RMD/camera+reel_clip_date+random number.RDC
everything should work fine.
As AVID RED AMA Plug-in Guide explains – the system names clips by Camera Letter + Reel Number + Month + Day + a two digit alphanumerical random number.
So simple R3D file
A013_C022_0805RA_001.R3D
will look like this in AVID: R3D in AVID
But in Resolve (with “Assist using reel numbers from the:” set to “Embedding in source clip file”)
will look like this: R3D in ResolveYou can of course change Reel manually in Resolve. However – for reason I cannot anyhow explain – after rendering to MXF, Reel value from Resolve is put in Tape column in AVID (only when “Use Prefix, Suffix, No. of Digits from Source” on Render page is turned on – without that there will be no Reel nor Tape info)
MXF from Resolve in AVID (marked in yellow is original file)
Hence, before you relink in AVID – at least in my understanding, AVID seems to be picky about Tape – you’re have to make AVID think source files and graded ones come from the same… source.
Hope this helps (and doesn’t spoil the party – I haven’t tested that workflow in R3D reality 😉
Cheers,
M -
Eric Santiago
July 27, 2011 at 3:15 pmThanks Rohit and Marcin for the help.
I think I got it 🙂
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/277/8322 -
Marcin Zwolski
July 27, 2011 at 4:43 pmFrom AVID forum on AVID – Resolve workflow
“The first whitepaper being worked on is an AAF pointing to Avid MXF mediafiles, color corrected, then brought back to MC with new rendered MXF files (with color correction) and relinking the original sequence to the new mediafiles.
Because there are several workflows, these are being tackled one at a time, since it involves testing, etc. for each of the different workflows being used.
There are also differences in AAF link to versus Avid managed media and the current limitation of TAPE versus SOURCE FILE when relinking. Some can be resolved by Blackgmagic, some need to be solved by Avid”.
https://community.avid.com/forums/t/98789.aspx?PageIndex=2
Cheers,
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Marcin Zwolski
July 27, 2011 at 4:53 pmI thought so.
Just wanted to share it with the others 😉
Cheers,
M
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