Avid round trip

[Marcin Zwolski]

My workflow so far is to use video-mixdowned MXF file from AVID and put it through Scene Cut Detection in Resolve. Not too convenient, even though EDLs rarely show up on time…

Yesterday I asked editor for different versions of the same EDL – CMX 3600, 340, with Source TC set to Start, 25, Record TC to 25 and so on. Wondering if there maybe lies my problem. Without success.

I even tried to load – heck, why not if nothing works – EDL in Scene Cut Detection. Resolve told me there were no details about cuts inside file I provided…

Rendering out MXF file works fine (AVID is happy with it).

Can’t say anything about AAF and ALE so far.

Marcin

[Dan Moran]

Hey Michael,

Can you pop me a mail at davincihelp@blackmagic-design.com ?

I’ve been using the Avid workflow quite happily and I’ll be able to help you out!

Thanks,

D

Dan Moran
DaVinci Application Specialist
Blackmagic Design EMEA

[Dean Manion]

Hey Dan, can you help all of us out?
I haven’t heard of anyone who has gotten the Avid roundtrip working correctly so far, except for a baked mixdown with a preconform EDL. Maybe they’re all staying tight-lipped for now. Do motion effects work? How about rendered media? How do you achieve a successful relink when returning to Avid?

Thanks in advance…
dm

[Michael Stirling]

Hi Marcin

You seem to be describing an old tape layoff workflow (without the tapes) – We managed to get a little further than that in v7. We had an EDL and consolitated mxf’s from Avid that Resolve could understand and open a timeline – Of course on v7 there was no way of getting back to Avid with anything other than a flattened target render. We’re just hoping for the final part of the jigsaw to drop into place and be able to ‘send’ a graded source render edit sequence with handles to Avid like we can now with FCP7.

Mike

[Jack Jones]

I’m coming from a Nucoda background but I’d imagine the Avid side of things is somewhat the same.

Relinking in Avid traditionally relies on Tape Name and Timecode, or more recently (with AMA) on Source ID and Timecode. Try giving the original media (before any transcode/consolidation) tape names if none exist. It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s an issue along those sorts or lines…

Or, even better, ask Dan Moran as he is the king of this stuff! Actually, it would be great if Dan could clarify that on here?

Jack Jones
Freelance Colourist

[Eric Rosen]

Any progress with this thread.
I have been trying roundtrip with Avid and have not had much success.

Eric Rosen
Lightpress Inc.
http://www.lightpress.tv
p. 206.462.4717

[Clement Hobbs]

Hi,

We just upgraded to version 8 and were successful moving an AAF sequence into Resolve, everything linked up fine, this was using file based material.
We haven’t tested output with linking back into the Avid (pc Symphony 5.5.1) yet though. Series starts in August so we have some time for testing prior to being dropped in the fire.
One thing we had to do was commit the edits on the timeline to remove any group clips used in the edit as Resolve saw this as nested information and failed to link the media. We’ll have some time this week to complete the testing of rendered material back to the Avid.

With version 7 we had success with edls (cmx3600) on tape based conform materials from the Avid, however when using file based content Resolve couldn’t rebuild the edl correctly so we ended up using scene detect. We were able to add tape #s to the material in the Avid and then see them as reel #s in Resolve but this still didn’t solve the problem.

[Fred Ricci]

Yes!
The AAF from Avid to Resolve8 works fine for me now, but some effects prevent the correct linking of the media. On the other hand, going back to Avid still doesnt work for me.

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[Clement Hobbs]

Ditto here.

AAF into Resolve work fine.

We can render out files from Resolve and see them back in the Avid, that part works fine. The issue is if we need to connect the clips to a sequence of any kind.
We tried ALE export which didn’t work at all (Avid said invalid film type), we tried an EDL export and the reel IDs were on the EDL, but the MXF files in the Avid had been stripped of their tape #s so no go there. At this point our only workflow would be to render out either with 0 frame handles and drop them to timeline based on file timestamps, or render out as one long file to overlay the sequence similar to if we had received a tape back from a grading session.

I’d love to know if we’re missing something and that there is a way to bring the data back in to Avid and have it link properly to a timeline.

[Illya Laney]

How are you guys trying to relink the media back in Avid? It’s very very particular about how you do it.

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